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Father is a James

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =897986963

wondering if it is this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

Marriage info
19 Oct 1902 St Giles Rowley Regis
-John Tibbetts- 23- bach- moulder- Springfield- Edward Tibbetts - miner
-Eliza Parkes- 29- spinster- The Knowle- James Parkes- miner
banns
both signed
Wit- James Parkes cant read the other

I think they may be different ones
this Lizzie is with parents on 1881 and not there in 1891
1881 Dog Lane Rowley Regis

James PARKES Head M Male 32 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner.
Kate PARKES Wife M Female 32 Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Lizzie PARKES Daur Female 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar.
Frederick PARKES Son Male 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar.
Kate PARKES Daur Female 4 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar.
James WHITTALL Son Male 2 Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Benjamin DARBY Boarder U Male 21 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Brickmaker

1891 Dog Lane Rowley Regis

James Parkes Head 43 Coal Miner
Catherine Parkes Wife 42
Fred Parkes Son 16 Looks like Tena Cotton Maker
Kate M Parkes Daur. 14 Grocers Assistant
James Parkes Son 11 Scholar
Richard Parkes Son 9 Scholar
Harriett Parkes Daur. 7 Scholar
William Durby Boarder 40 Coal Miner
All Born Rowley Regis


if our Elizabeth Parkes doesnt marry until 1902
where is she in 1901

Possible
1891 Pear Tree Street Rowley Regis
Obadiah Pearson Head 64 Charter Master Born Amblecote
Fanny Pearson Wife 58 Born Halesowen
Elizabeth Pearson Daur. 21 Assistant Mistresss ? School Born Rolwey Regis
Obadiah Pearson Son 18 Cant read occ Born Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Parkes Serv 18 General Servant Born Rowley Regis

She is not with the family in 1901
Dudley Road Rowley Regis
James Parker Head 52 Coal Miner Hewer
Caroline Parker Wife 52
James Parker Son 21 Labourer Pottery
Richard Parker Son 19 Labourer Pottery
Harriet Parker Daur. 16 Tailoress
All Born Rowley Regis

So could be not sure

ok how many births that would fit for her?

Ok who is good at maths...

MATHS GIRL...

if she is aged 8 on census

and aged 29 on marriage in 19 Oct 1902

then dies in June qtr aged 30

when is she born
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1872 (>99%)
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Parkes Eliza Dudley 6c 35
Parkes Eliza Harriet Dudley 6c 85

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Births Jun 1872 (>99%)
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PARKES Elisabeth Dudley 6c 6

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Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
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PARKES Eliza Dudley 6c 33

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Births Dec 1872 (>99%)
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Parkes Elizabeth Dudley 6c 9

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Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
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PARKES Elizabeth Dudley 6c 126
PARKES Elizabeth Dudley 6c 35

Northern Lass wrote:Ok who is good at maths...

MATHS GIRL...

if she is aged 8 on census

and aged 29 on marriage in 19 Oct 1902

then dies in June qtr aged 30

when is she born
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1872 (>99%)
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Parkes Eliza Dudley 6c 35
Parkes Eliza Harriet Dudley 6c 85

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Births Jun 1872 (>99%)
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PARKES Elisabeth Dudley 6c 6

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Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
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PARKES Eliza Dudley 6c 33

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Births Dec 1872 (>99%)--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Parkes Elizabeth Dudley 6c 9

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Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
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PARKES Elizabeth Dudley 6c 126
PARKES Elizabeth Dudley 6c 35

How am I supposed to get my marking done when you set maths puzzles?

I never was much good at ages but presuming the dates are correct I think she must have been born between Oct 1872 and beginning of April 1873 which narrows it down a bit but not enough.

Thanks MG I knew I could rely on you!

I kept using my fingers and toes but getting nowhere!


Ok have emailed that nice man at Sandwell and will get the certificate
I would love to know which one it is

Northern Lass wrote:Thanks MG I knew I could rely on you!

I kept using my fingers and toes but getting nowhere!


Ok have emailed that nice man at Sandwell and will get the certificate
I would love to know which one it is

You have more confidence in my ability to sort birthday months than I do -- I was drawing lots of diagrams

If it is the Elizabeth Parkes that married John Tibbetts he murdered her
then slit his own throat

Northern Lass wrote:If it is the Elizabeth Parkes that married John Tibbetts he murdered her
then slit his own throat

That presumably wasn't the happiest of marriages then if it was over in less than a year.!

Archiving this pending more info from regis office will then order certif

So archived pending further info

Ok have been having a bit of a dialogue with the regis offices at Sandwell and Dudley they are great.
I am going to connect up the tree and order a birth certif and death.

I asked Dudley and Sandwell to check this lot below
based on what MG figured out and I agreed she is born 1872 or 1873.

None at Dudley for father James so that rules all the ones out there
"We have checked the Dudley Register Office references that you have given and on reference to the register the father is not James as stated by you."

At Sandwell the one that fits for father James
"Have checked the others for Oldbury and Rowley Regis and only RR/56/199 shows the father as James"


1872
PARKES Eliza H Sedgley Dudley Register Office SEG/102/406
PARKES Eliza Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/47/223
PARKES Eliza Tipton Sandwell Register Office TIP/87/421
PARKES Elizabeth Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/130/17
PARKES Elizabeth Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/55/73
PARKES Elizabeth Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/56/199


1873
PARKES Eliza Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/48/428
PARKES Elizabeth Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/133/287
PARKES Elizabeth Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/49/179
PARKES Elizabeth Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/57/256

and it must be this one so qtr is goodBirths Dec 1872
Parkes Elizabeth Dudley 6c 9


So will let you know when I get it