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Hi guys . an ancestor of mine was called Patrick Mcloughlin , i believe he was born in salford in 1855 in , but the earliest i can find him though was in the 1891 census with wife Emma and children Thomas b 1874 Phillip b. 1875 John b.1878 Peter b. 1880 Mary b. 1884 James b. 1886 Hannah b. 1888 and William b. 1890 .I have found out he Married Emma in 1873 in Manchester , but i cannot find him on the 1861 or 1871 census or the family on the 1881 census even though the 1891census says ALL the children were born in salford, this is driving me mad , can anybody help

This is a possible for 1881
Her Majestys Prison, Cheetham
Patrick Mc Loughlin, 27, Dyer, Selford, Lancashire

Possible for Emma,
Transcibed on Ancestry as Loughton
27, Hope Road, Regent Road, Salford
Emma Mc Loughton, head, Mar, 25
Thomas, son, 7,
Phillip, son, 6,
John, son, 4,
Peter, son, 1
All born Salford

grangers14 wrote:This is a possible for 1881
Her Majestys Prison, Cheetham
Patrick Mc Loughlin, 27, Dyer, Selford, Lancashire

He is also married

grangers14 wrote:Possible for Emma,
Transcibed on Ancestry as Loughton
27, Hope Road, Regent Road, Salford
Emma Mc Loughton, head, Mar, 25
Thomas, son, 7,
Phillip, son, 6,
John, son, 4,
Peter, son, 1
All born Salford

is that 1881 as well ?

grangers14 wrote:This is a possible for 1881
Her Majestys Prison, Cheetham
Patrick Mc Loughlin, 27, Dyer, Selford, Lancashire

yes thats what i've always thought , but could not find his family so i stated to doubt myself.....

grangers14 wrote:Possible for Emma,
Transcibed on Ancestry as Loughton
27, Hope Road, Regent Road, Salford
Emma Mc Loughton, head, Mar, 25
Thomas, son, 7,
Phillip, son, 6,
John, son, 4,
Peter, son, 1
All born Salford

that sound promising ,

Oh sorry yes it is 1881

?? Possible
3, Dewhurst Street, St George, Manchester
1871 Ceensus
Mary Loughlin, head, Mar, 43, Rag Work house? Ireland
Michael, son, 18, Fustian? Shearer,
Mary, daur, 16, Cotton Spinner
Patrick, son, 12,
Julia, daur, 10,
Annie, daur, 7
All others born Manchester

1901: Salford Union Infirmary, Pendleton, Lancs
Emma McLauglin 46 Pauper M Charwoman born Salford

This looks like the same family,
1861 Census
16 ct 1 house, Albert Street
Thomas McLoughlin, head, 35, Nightman, Ireland
Mary, wife, 35, Irlenad
Michael, son, 11,
Mary Ann, daur, 8,
Patrick, son, 6,
Catherine, daur, 10 months
All others born in Liverpool

BUT thers this family too,
1861 Census
16, William Street, Cellar, Greengate, Salford,
Thomas Mc Loughlin, head, 43? Shoe Maker, Ga?way, Ireland
Mary, wife, 33, Ga?way, Ireland
Honour, daur, 11
John, son, 9
Patrick, son, 6
All others born Salford

grangers14 wrote:This looks like the same family,
1861 Census
16 ct 1 house, Albert Street
Thomas McLoughlin, head, 35, Nightman, Ireland
Mary, wife, 35, Irlenad
Michael, son, 11,
Mary Ann, daur, 8,
Patrick, son, 6,
Catherine, daur, 10 months
All others born in Liverpool

BUT thers this family too,
1861 Census
16, William Street, Cellar, Greengate, Salford,
Thomas Mc Loughlin, head, 43? Shoe Maker, Ga?way, Ireland
Mary, wife, 33, Ga?way, Ireland
Honour, daur, 11
John, son, 9
Patrick, son, 6
All others born Salford

i have seen that first family before , but patrick is listed as being born in liverpool , the 2nd is more likely i think

Best getting the marriage certificate to validate it I think.
Best not going down a wrong route, fathers occupation and witnesses may help.
Jo

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