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http://www.blackcountrybugle.co.uk/News ... one-by.htm

"Alice was born around 1896, to William and his wife Jane. In the 1901 census, Alice, aged 5, is living at 57 Lake Street, with William (29), Jane (31) and Mary H. Oakley (12)."

"that the address of William's shop was 57 Lake Street, Lower Gornal, and it had previously belonged to his parents, John and Martha"

1901 57, Lake Street, Sedgley, Lower Gornal
JONES, William Head Married M 29 1872 General Dealer Lr Gornal Staffordshire
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 31 1870 Lr Gornal Staffordshire
JONES, Alice Daughter F 5 1896 Lr Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Mary H Visitor Single F 12 1889 Lr Gornal Staffordshire

Maths girl wrote:1901 57, Lake Street, Sedgley, Lower Gornal
JONES, William Head Married M 29 1872 General Dealer Lr Gornal Staffordshire
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 31 1870 Lr Gornal Staffordshire
JONES, Alice Daughter F 5 1896 Lr Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Mary H Visitor Single F 12 1889 Lr Gornal Staffordshire

there quite a few william and jane marriage but this looks poss

JONES William H PARSONS Jane 1875 Lower Gornal, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 215/004/319


who that Oakley can we tie her in ?

peterd wrote:

Maths girl wrote:1901 57, Lake Street, Sedgley, Lower Gornal
JONES, William Head Married M 29 1872 General Dealer Lr Gornal Staffordshire
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 31 1870 Lr Gornal Staffordshire
JONES, Alice Daughter F 5 1896 Lr Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Mary H Visitor Single F 12 1889 Lr Gornal Staffordshire

there quite a few william and jane marriage but this looks poss

JONES William H PARSONS Jane 1875 Lower Gornal, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 215/004/319


who that Oakley can we tie her in ?

OOps Peter --you must have posted this early this morning before you had woken up you have John and Jane marrying at 3 and 5 years old respectively -- now that is starting young!

all well thought it was the 1881 census

Maths girl wrote:1901 57, Lake Street, Sedgley, Lower Gornal
JONES, William Head Married M 29 1872 General Dealer Lr Gornal Staffordshire
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 31 1870 Lr Gornal Staffordshire
JONES, Alice Daughter F 5 1896 Lr Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Mary H Visitor Single F 12 1889 Lr Gornal Staffordshire

anyone find william with parents john and martha ? in 1891 canrt see them in 1881

Maths girl wrote:1901 57, Lake Street, Sedgley, Lower Gornal
JONES, William Head Married M 29 1872 General Dealer Lr Gornal Staffordshire
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 31 1870 Lr Gornal Staffordshire
JONES, Alice Daughter F 5 1896 Lr Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Mary H Visitor Single F 12 1889 Lr Gornal Staffordshire

Trying something different

1899 41, Lake Street, Sedgley, Lower Gornal
OAKLEY, Eli Head Married M 40 1851 Farmer Work Labourer Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Hannah Wife Married F 38 1853 Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, James William Son Single M 18 1873 Coal Miner Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Louisa Daughter Single F 17 1874 Brick Carrier Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Naomi Daughter Single F 16 1875 Brick Carrier Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Alice Edith Daughter Single F 7 1884 Scholar Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Mary Hannah Daughter Single F 2 1889 Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Naomi Mother Widow F 74 1817 Lower Gornal Staffordshire

Next door
1891 42 & 43, Lake Street, Sedgley, Lower Gornal
FLAVELL, David Head Married M 58 1833 Grocer Lower Gornal Staffordshire
FLAVELL, Elizabeth Wife Married F 62 1829 Lower Gornal Staffordshire
FLAVELL, Eliza Daughter Single F 26 1865 Lower Gornal Staffordshire
FLAVELL, Hannah Daughter Single F 22 1869 Grocers Assistant Lower Gornal Staffordshire

There wasn't a 57 LAke street in 1891 -- were the houses renumbered ?? or more houses built in that decade?

Maths girl wrote:

Maths girl wrote:1901 57, Lake Street, Sedgley, Lower Gornal
JONES, William Head Married M 29 1872 General Dealer Lr Gornal Staffordshire
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 31 1870 Lr Gornal Staffordshire
JONES, Alice Daughter F 5 1896 Lr Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Mary H Visitor Single F 12 1889 Lr Gornal Staffordshire

Trying something different

1899 41, Lake Street, Sedgley, Lower Gornal
OAKLEY, Eli Head Married M 40 1851 Farmer Work Labourer Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Hannah Wife Married F 38 1853 Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, James William Son Single M 18 1873 Coal Miner Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Louisa Daughter Single F 17 1874 Brick Carrier Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Naomi Daughter Single F 16 1875 Brick Carrier Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Alice Edith Daughter Single F 7 1884 Scholar Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Mary Hannah Daughter Single F 2 1889 Lower Gornal Staffordshire
OAKLEY, Naomi Mother Widow F 74 1817 Lower Gornal Staffordshire

Next door
1891 42 & 43, Lake Street, Sedgley, Lower Gornal
FLAVELL, David Head Married M 58 1833 Grocer Lower Gornal Staffordshire
FLAVELL, Elizabeth Wife Married F 62 1829 Lower Gornal Staffordshire
FLAVELL, Eliza Daughter Single F 26 1865 Lower Gornal Staffordshire
FLAVELL, Hannah Daughter Single F 22 1869 Grocers Assistant Lower Gornal Staffordshire

There wasn't a 57 LAke street in 1891 -- were the houses renumbered ?? or more houses built in that decade?

1871 16 Brook Street Private House, Sedgley
JONES, John Head M 43 1828 Staffordshire Miner
JONES, Martha Wife F 39 1832 Staffordshire
JONES, Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1857 Staffordshire
JONES, Sarah A Daughter F 10 1861 Staffordshire
JONES, Betsy Daughter F 4 1867 Staffordshire
JONES, Clara Daughter F 0 1871 Staffordshire

Living next door to
FLAVELL, Samuel Head M 61 1810 Staffordshire Labourer
FLAVELL, Jane Wife F 61 1810 Staffordshire
FLAVELL, John Son M 19 1852 Staffordshire White smith

Living next door to
FLAVELL, Job, Head, M 31White smith
FLAVELL, Emma,wife F 27
FLAVELL, Isaac 11months


Was Martha a sister? to John and Job?

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