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* Arc TBC * Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:06 pm
by LondonLover1982
Hi

I have the ultimate challenge. My 3xgreat grandfather was William Taylor born in Wimbish, Essex about 1821. He was baptised in February 1824 son of Allen and Ann Taylor.

He died in May 1898 in Rochford Workhouse and was buried in Canewdon, the village he lived in from about 1845 onwards. His wife Mary Taylor died in August 1871 and was buried in Canewdon along with an infant John Taylor. William Taylor is on the 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses in Canewdon. He is on the 1891 census in Rochford Workhouse, a widower labourer, born Saffron Walden which is the nearest town to his actual place of birth. Died 1898, buried Canewdon.

I am having huge problems trying to locate him on the 1881 census though. I have tried all variants but to no avail. Canewdon and Rochford came under the Rochford registration district. He is in the area in 1871 and 1891 but why not 1881?

I wonder if a fresh pair of eyes would help? I would be very grateful. Thanks.

Ben

Re: Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:29 pm
by Jimmy
What was his occupation in 1871 and 1891.

Re: Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:33 pm
by mallosa
:?

1881: Abrams Lane, Crishall, Essex (Rural Sanitary District of Saffron Waldon)
William Taylor 65 Head Wid Ag Lab born Saffron Waldon, Essex
Mary Jane Taylor Dau 25 U House Keeper born Crishall, Essex
Margaret Taylor 18 Dau U Dom Serv born Crishall
Henry William Taylor 15 Gr. Son Ag Lab born Crishall
Albert George Taylor 7 Gr. Son born Crishall

Re: Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:13 am
by dianel
Is this him in 1871?
At The Street (?), Canewdon,
William Taylor Head 50 Ag. Labourer b. Essex, Wimbish
Mary Ann Taylor Wife 40 b. Essex, Canewdon
William Taylor Son 16 Ag. Labourer b. Essex, Canewdon
James Taylor Son 13 Ag. Labourer b. Essex, Canewdon
Elizabeth Taylor Daur 6 b. Essex, Canewdon

If so, we could be looking for a William Taylor Widower with a daughter, Elizabeth, aged 16, and sons William and James (if they are not married and moved away.

Re: Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:25 am
by dianel
Darn! It looks like Elizabeth is a servant, living with a Mary E. Wells in Prittlewell:
1881
At 2 Runwell Terrace, Prittlewell, Essex
Mary E. Wells Head widow 37 Lodging House Keeper b. Notts., Blyth
Sydney B. Wells Son 11 Scholar b. Middlesex, Kensington
William H. Wells Son 9 Scholar b. Notts., Blyth
William W. Russell (can't read relationship) 35 Farmer b. Notts., Blyth
Elizabeth Taylor Servant 16 General Servant b. Essex, Canewdon

James seems to be with a James Benson and his family:

1881
At Stambridge Road,
James Benson Head 30 Engine Driver b. Essex, Stambridge
Eliza A. Benson Wife 28 b. Essex, Rochford
Fred A. Benson Son 2 b. Essex, Prittlewell
Arthur J. Benson Son 6 mo b. Essex, Rochford
James Taylor Lodger 22 Steam Ploughman b. Essex, Canewdon

Re: Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:44 am
by dianel
This could be William jr. :
1881
At Sweet Shop, Canewdon
Eliza Ann Wood Head 62 Confect. Sweet Shop b. Essex, Fobbing
Alfred C. Wood Grandson 7 Scholar b. Canewdon, Essex
William Taylor 26 Labourer b. Canewdon, Essex
William Mead 21Labourer b. Canewdon, Essex

Looks like William might be on his own if he hasn't remarried.

Re: Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:59 am
by dianel
mallosa wrote::?

1881: Abrams Lane, Crishall, Essex (Rural Sanitary District of Saffron Waldon)
William Taylor 65 Head Wid Ag Lab born Saffron Waldon, Essex
Mary Jane Taylor Dau 25 U House Keeper born Crishall, Essex
Margaret Taylor 18 Dau U Dom Serv born Crishall
Henry William Taylor 15 Gr. Son Ag Lab born Crishall
Albert George Taylor 7 Gr. Son born Crishall


This William Taylor appears to be here in 1871:

1871
at Mill Causeway, Crishall
William Taylor Head Mar 59 Ag. Lab. b. Essex, Saf. Waldon,
Robert Taylor Son 11 Ag. Lab. b. Essex, Chrishall
Mary J Taylor Daur 15 b. Essex, Chrishall
Caroline Taylor Daur 13 b. Essex, Chrishall
Margaret Taylor Daur 8 Scholar b. Essex, Chrishall
Henry W Taylor Gr. Son 5 Scholar b. Essex, Chrishall

So not the one we're looking for?

Re: Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:02 am
by dianel
Are you sure that the one in Rochford Workhouse in 1891 is your one, LondonLover?

Re: Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:18 am
by Maths girl
Just checking that this is the one you are looking for?

1861 Street, Canewdon
TAYLOR, William Head Married M 38 1823 Agricultural Labourer Wimbriste Essex
TAYLOR, Mary Ann Wife Married F 30 1831 Agricultural Labourer Canewdon Essex
TAYLOR, William Son M 6 1855 Scholar Canewdon Essex
TAYLOR, Ja mes Son M 3 1858 Canewdon Essex
HARDY, Thomas Lodger Unmarried M 46 1815 Agricultural Labourer Topsfield Essex

1871 The Street, Canewdon
TAYLOR, William Head M 50 1821 Essex
TAYLOR, Mary Ann Wife F 40 1831 Essex
TAYLOR, William Son M 16 1855 Essex
TAYLOR, James Son M 13 1858 Essex
TAYLOR, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1865 Essex

Sorry Di -- Only just woken up -- realised that this repeats where you were earlier.

Re: Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:26 am
by Maths girl
dianel wrote:Are you sure that the one in Rochford Workhouse in 1891 is your one, LondonLover?


While looking I noticed that there were at least two William Taylor -agricultural labourer -- of the same age in 1861 -- in Rochford --have you dismissed the others?

Re: Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:29 am
by Maths girl
Have you tried this one?

1881 Greenstead Lane, Hockley
BAKER, Henry Head Widower M 73 1808 Ag Lab Finchingfield Essex
TYLOR, William Boarder Single M 60 1821 Ag Lab Rayleigh Essex

I know it says Single but ..do the areas match at all -- I don't know Essex! It says registration district Rochford

Re: Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:26 am
by LondonLover1982
dianel wrote:Are you sure that the one in Rochford Workhouse in 1891 is your one, LondonLover?


Hi

Yes I am absolutely sure. The place of birth in 1891 is given as Saffron Walden which is the nearest town to his actual birthplace and as he lived in Canewdon from about 1851 onwards he was buried there in Canewdon in May 1898. He says he was a widower and an ag labourer on the 1891 census. The reason why the birthplace is slightly out is perhaps because he was old and if he was in a workhouse they may have just given the nearest town.

Ben

Re: Are any pieces of the 1881 census missing?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:39 am
by Antie Em
Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?

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