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*ARc tbc* --John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:05 pm
by Northern Lass
done a look up
will add link soon
here is marriage
Gill side we are ok on
Who is father for John ...he is another John can we find a dob and him on census
maybe living near them in 1841
Marriage info added and looked up at archives by Jan<br>
22nd March 1841 St Thomas Dudley<br>
John Billingham - of full age- bach- miner- Dudley Wood Parish of Dudley- John Billingham- Chainmaker<br>
Mary Gill- minor- spinster- Dudley Wood- Daniel Gill - miner<br>
banns<br>
X both <br>
Wit- Charles Thomas / X Elizabeth Thomas
Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:09 pm
by Northern Lass
Here is link
on which census info
netherton area
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =359115748any bapt for him?
Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:06 pm
by grangers14
Unless they were living together before marriage. 1841 Census taken 6th June.
??
1841 Census
Dudley Wood, Dudley
John Billingham, 41, Chain M
Samuel, 15,
Martha, 35,
Sarah, 13,
Mary, 6,
Martha, 2,
Anna, 3 months
all born County
Would that area use Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley for Christenings?
Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:04 pm
by cid
There are these at Tibbets Garden, Rowley Regis
1841
BILLINGAM, John M 25 1816 Cole? Miner Staffordshire
BILLINGAM, Mary F 20 1821 not born in county
I can only see one marriage for a John Billingham and a Mary on West Mid BMDand thats the one above, although there is this one which I suppose they could be
BILLINGHAM John WOODHOUSE Maria Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/237
Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:29 pm
by Jimmy
JOHN BILLINGHAM
Christening, 18 MAR 1824. Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester
Parents:
JOHN BILLINGHAM.
MARTHA.
Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:47 pm
by grangers14
I'd seen a couple there Jimmy but as I dont know the area I wasnt sure if that would be a place to go?
It was the place Dudley Wood that was given on the marriage info is what made me think of that 1841 census.
Jo

Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:18 pm
by Northern Lass
I would have thought if that area st Thomas Dudley for early ones
Is Dudley wood near Quarrybank area?
So St Johns dudley Wood but that is later I think
so could be any church around
or not bapt at all
I just wondered if we could pick up a rellie near em on census
Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:30 pm
by cid
poss siblings
DIANNA BILLINGHAM
Christening: 26 MAR 1826 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England
SAMUEL BILLINGHAM
Birth: 14 NOV 1825
Christening: 26 MAR 1826 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England
SARAH BILLINGHAM
Birth 11 APR 1828
Christening: 15 MAR 1829 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England
JOHN BILLINGHAM
Birth 11 FEB 1832
Christening: 11 MAR 1832 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England
Father: JOHN BILLINGHAM Family
Mother: MARTHA
All EXTRACTED
also these SUBMITTED entries
SARAH BILLINGHAM Birth 1826 Dudley
MARY BILLINGHAM Birth 1835 Dudley Worcester
MARTHA BILLINGHAM Birth 1839 Dudley Worcester
Anna Billingham Birth 1840 Dudley Worcester
Leah BILLINGHAM Birth 1849 Dudley Worcester
Father: John BILLINGHAM Family
Mother: Martha Yardley
Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:33 pm
by cid
Northern Lass wrote:I would have thought if that area st Thomas Dudley for early ones
Is Dudley wood near Quarrybank area?
So St Johns dudley Wood but that is later I think
so could be any church around
or not bapt at all
I just wondered if we could pick up a rellie near em on census
Dudley Wood right next to Quarry Bank, but also right next to Cradley Heath and Cradley.
So they could have lived on the border of all these areas and used whichever church took their fancy i suppose

Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:34 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok here they are on census
any rellies near em
1851 census
John Billingham, head, 30, Chain maker
Mary, / 27, netherton
Benjamin, son, 8,
James, son, 6,
Joseph, son, 5,
Henry, son, 3 months
All others born Rowley Regis
1861 Census Tibbetts garden, Rowley Regis
John Billingham,head, 42, Chain Maker
Mary, wife, 39, Dudley
Benjamin, son, 18, Chain maker
James, son, 16, Chain maker
Joseph, son, 13, Chain maker
Henry, son, 10,
Selvia, daur, 8,
Selena, daur, 6
Alfred, son, 3,
All others born Rowley Regis
1871 Census Tibbetts Gardens, Rowley regis
John Billingham, head, 49, Chain maker
Mary, wife, 48, Dudley
James, son, 24, Chain maker
Henry, son, 19, Chain maker
Sylvia, daur, 17, chain maker
Selina, daur, 15, Chain maker
Alfred, son, 12,
Maryann, daur, 9,
John, son, 7
All others born Rowley regis
Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:35 pm
by Northern Lass
cid wrote:There are these at Tibbets Garden, Rowley Regis
1841
BILLINGAM, John M 25 1816 Cole? Miner Staffordshire
BILLINGAM, Mary F 20 1821 not born in county
I can only see one marriage for a John Billingham and a Mary on West Mid BMDand thats the one above, although there is this one which I suppose they could be
BILLINGHAM John WOODHOUSE Maria Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/237
that 1851 for our John and Mary where is it
and this couple above must be ours too in 1841??
Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:38 pm
by cid
Marriage SUBMITTED
John BILLINGHAM
MARTHA YARDLEY
21 APR 1822 Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:48 pm
by cid
1841 census
No other BILLINGHAMS that I can see on this page , previous or next page
Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:50 pm
by Northern Lass
Northern Lass wrote:Ok here they are on census
any rellies near em
1851 census
John Billingham, head, 30, Chain maker
Mary, / 27, netherton
Benjamin, son, 8,
James, son, 6,
Joseph, son, 5,
Henry, son, 3 months
All others born Rowley Regis
1861 Census Tibbetts garden, Rowley Regis
John Billingham,head, 42, Chain Maker
Mary, wife, 39, Dudley
Benjamin, son, 18, Chain maker
James, son, 16, Chain maker
Joseph, son, 13, Chain maker
Henry, son, 10,
Selvia, daur, 8,
Selena, daur, 6
Alfred, son, 3,
All others born Rowley Regis
1871 Census Tibbetts Gardens, Rowley regis
John Billingham, head, 49, Chain maker
Mary, wife, 48, Dudley
James, son, 24, Chain maker
Henry, son, 19, Chain maker
Sylvia, daur, 17, chain maker
Selina, daur, 15, Chain maker
Alfred, son, 12,
Maryann, daur, 9,
John, son, 7
All others born Rowley regis
thanks Cid so how about on this lot
any rellies near for John Billingham
Re: John Billingham father of John Billingham b 1822
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:39 pm
by grangers14
1851 census
John Billingham, head, 30, Chain maker
Mary, wife, 27, Netherton
Benjamin, son, 8,
James, son, 6,
Joseph, son, 5,
Henry, son, 3 months
All others born Rowley Regis
The area is Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis and as Bellingham nothing that jumps out to me on the 1851 census as billinghams near by. Have updated BCC with address.