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Found this next to a look-up is Father Daniel in BCC?
Aug 12 1883 St James Dudley
Thomas James Mann 22 bach Bricklayer Dudley Father Thomas Mann Labourer
Mary Ann Shakespeare 21 spin Dudley Father Daniel Shakespeare Smith
Wit; Joseph Jones Sarah Ann Mann

Is this the one? http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... #moreinfo_

could be
I have just tweaked the census as no breaks were in so it was difficult to read

1861 Census: Piece Enumeration District Ecclesiastical District RG 09-2058 25 Not Shown Address: 357 Vine Street Forename Surname Age (years)
Daniel Shakespear 35
Mary Shakespear 34
Sarah Shakespear 14
William Shakespear 12
Susannah Shakespear 8
Daniel Shakespear 4
James Shakespear 2

1881 Census: Dwelling: 30 Chapel St Census Place: Dudley, Worcester, England Source: FHL Film 1341690 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2878 Folio 130 Page 7
Daniel SHAKSPEARE M 55 M Stafford, England Rel: Head Occ: Forge Blacksmith
Mary SHAKSPEARE M 53 F Dudley, Worcester, England Rel: Wife
Sarah A. SHAKSPEARE U 33 F Rel: Daur Occ: Tailoress
James SHAKSPEARE U 21 M Pensnett, Stafford, England Rel: Son Occ: Forge Blacksmith
Esther SHAKSPEARE 15 F Dudley, Worcester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Joseph SHAKSPEARE 13 M Rel: Son Occ: Hurdle Rivetter (Iron)
Thomas SHAKSPEARE 11 M Dudley, Worcester, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
James SHAKSPEARE 5 M Dudley, Worcester, England Rel: Grd Son Occ: Scholar

so no mary but then if she is born 1862

need her on census with a Daniel

1871, they are indexed as Shatlerfigs if you want to check that 1 out. but no Mary. but there is a Jane born about 1863.

1871 census
SHAKESPEAR, Daniel Head M 46 1825 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, Mary Wife F 44 1827 Worcestershire
SHAKESPEAR, Sarah A Daughter F 24 1847 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, Daniel Son M 14 1857 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, James Son M 12 1859 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, Jane Daughter F 8 1863 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, Esther Daughter F 5 1866 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, Joseph Son M 3 1868 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, Thomas Son M 0 1871 Staffordshire
Chapel Street, Dudley

Must be a different Daniel with dau Mary

can we find one that fits?

Not much help but there is this one

1881 11 Dock Lane, Dudley Worcs
MERRYMAN, William Head Married M 31 1850 Licensed Victualler Wolverhampton Staffordshire
MERRYMAN, Emma Wife Married F 20 1861 DudleyWorcestershire
MERRYMAN, Eliza B Daughter Single F 0 1881 Dudley Worcestershire
SHAKESPEARE, Mary A Servant Single F 18 1863 Domestic Servant Dudley Worcestershire
CALLAWAY, Richard Lodger Married M 67 1814 Carpenter Gloucester Gloucestershire
CALLAWAY, Eliza Lodger Married F 61 1820 Dudley Worcestershire

There isn't a birth reg for a Mary Ann Shakespeare for about 1863, but there is for,

West Midlands Birth 1862.
SHAKESPEARE Mary J, Dudley Dudley Register Office. DUD/089/310.

Births Dec 1862.
SHAKESPEARE Mary Jane. Dudley. 6c. 136.

Mary Jane Shakespeare.
Christening, 04 JAN 1863. Brierley Hill, Stafford.

Esther Shakespeare.
Christening, 03 DEC 1865. Brierley Hill, Stafford.
Parents to both.
Daniel Shakespeare.
Mary Shakespeare.

Source Information: Batch No.C010301.

rockyfowler wrote:1871 census
SHAKESPEAR, Daniel Head M 46 1825 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, Mary Wife F 44 1827 Worcestershire
SHAKESPEAR, Sarah A Daughter F 24 1847 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, Daniel Son M 14 1857 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, James Son M 12 1859 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, Jane Daughter F 8 1863 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, Esther Daughter F 5 1866 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, Joseph Son M 3 1868 Staffordshire
SHAKESPEAR, Thomas Son M 0 1871 Staffordshire
Chapel Street, Dudley

Rocky was it deffo Mary Ann
could it have been Jane?

did she sign as Mary Jane but vicar put it in as Ann

might be worth rechecking this one
then we can add her info to that daniel

Def Mary Ann That`s the reason I remembered it was the same name as a recent thread

rockyfowler wrote:Def Mary Ann That`s the reason I remembered it was the same name as a recent thread

hmm rite

well did she sign or mark?

I might ask you to have another look at this if we don't know if she made
X or sig

cos it does look like Mary Jane

any ideas?

going to get this rechecked....cos need to know if she signed or siggy

this is now archived for further info

Ok this has been relooked up and ..

Yes! it is Mary Jane

in marriage by vicar
and by X at bottom

so need help on this filling in on bcc if anyone can

Aug 12 1883 St James Dudley
Thomas James Mann 22 bach Bricklayer Dudley Father Thomas Mann Labourer
Mary Jane Shakespeare 21 spin Dudley Father Daniel Shakespeare Smith
Wit; Joseph Jones Sarah Ann Mann

Completed and will now be archived