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Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:12 pm
by grangers14
A spin off from Samuel Tromans 1826 In BCC

Hannah is with her sister in the 1881
1881 Census
132 Congreaves Road, Rowley regis
Samuel Tromans, head, 55, Labourer, Cradley Heath
Mary A, wife, 58, Dudley
Prudence, daur, 16, Newtown
Samuel, son, 10, Newtown
Hannah Tilly, wifes sister, W, 80, Dudley

Possibles,
1871 Census
34 Windmill End, Dudley
Hannah Tilley, head, W, 73, Horse Nail makers Widow, Rowley
Samuel Body, grandson, 12, Coal miners son, Dudley

1861 census
Windmill End, Dudley
Hannah Tilly, head, W, 64, nail maker, Rowley Regis
Samule Body, Grand son, 2, Dudley

1851 census
Windmill End, Dudley
Thomas Tilly, head, 54, Nailer
Hannah, wife, 54, Nailer
William, son, 21, Nailer
Thomas, son, 15, Nailer
All born Rowley Regis

1841 census
Windmill End, Dudley
Thomas Tilly, 40, nailer
Hannah, 40,
Joseph, 15,
William, 10,
Thomas, 5,
Hannah, 10,
All born county

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:39 pm
by Jimmy
Submitted.
THOMAS TILLEY.
HANNAH TAYLOR.
Marriage, 26 OCT 1818. Dudley, Worcester.

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:43 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:Submitted.
THOMAS TILLEY.
HANNAH TAYLOR.
Marriage, 26 OCT 1818. Dudley, Worcester.


So how come she is sister to Mary Ann Tromans nee billingham nee Gill

:shock:

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:45 pm
by Jimmy
Possible. Extracted.

HANNAH TAYLOR.
Christening, 29 APR 1798. Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Parents:
JOSEPH TAYLOR.
ANN.

JOSEPH TAYLOR.
HANNAH CHATER.
Marriage, 16 FEB 1795. Rowley Regis, Stafford.

-------------------------
Submitted.
JOSEPH TAYLOR.
ANN ALLEN.
Marriage, 29 DEC 1794. Dudley, Worcester.

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:46 pm
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:
Jimmy wrote:Submitted.
THOMAS TILLEY.
HANNAH TAYLOR.
Marriage, 26 OCT 1818. Dudley, Worcester.


So how come she is sister to Mary Ann Tromans nee billingham nee Gill

:shock:


Didn't notice that. :oops:

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:56 pm
by Northern Lass
I think that could be Hannah

1798 would fit her age on census

so suppose she is Hannah Taylor who marries a Thomas Tilley

where does Mary Ann "Gill" fit in

is Hannah her mother really

if Joseph is her father as per that marriage who is her mother...

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:19 pm
by Jimmy
What marriage details. :?:

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:50 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:What marriage details. :?:


the marriage that Rf looked up
father for Mary ann is Joseph gill
Hannah Tilly is down as sister in 1881 to Mary ann
but as has been proved she is not sister as her father is Joseph Taylor
should it have said I wonder Joseph Taylor not Joseph Gill

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:51 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:Possible. Extracted.

HANNAH TAYLOR.
Christening, 29 APR 1798. Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Parents:
JOSEPH TAYLOR.
ANN.

JOSEPH TAYLOR.
HANNAH CHATER.
Marriage, 16 FEB 1795. Rowley Regis, Stafford.

-------------------------
Submitted.
JOSEPH TAYLOR.
ANN ALLEN.
Marriage, 29 DEC 1794. Dudley, Worcester.


that looks good for Hannah

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:04 pm
by Northern Lass
Question...

If this is Hannah Gill in 1871 and Hannah Tilly in 1881

1871 census
Sheffield? Street, kingswinford
Mary A Billingham, head, W, 52
Joseph, Holt? son, 18, Coal miner, Kingswinford
Edward Holt?, son, 16
Thomas Holt, son, 14
Patience Holt, daur, 12
Elisha Holt, son, 10
All others born Dudley

The house previous has,
Hannah Gill, head, W, 69, Dudley


how can this one be our Hannah Tilly

1871 Census
34 Windmill End, Dudley
Hannah Tilley, head, W, 73, Horse Nail makers Widow, Rowley
Samuel Body, grandson, 12, Coal miners son, Dudley

I think they are different ones


in which case ......that Hannah Taylor that marries Thomas tilley aint ours

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:06 pm
by Northern Lass
Could Hannah be her mother and Joseph gill the step father to Mary ann

but then she is sister in 1881...of Mary ann

we need that 1871 posting with hannah on
who is she living with?

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:22 pm
by FarSide
Confused
Which Hannah on the 71 are you looking for?
Ü

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:48 pm
by Northern Lass
This one on the 1871

1871 census
Sheffield? Street, kingswinford
Mary A Billingham, head, W, 52
Joseph, Holt? son, 18, Coal miner, Kingswinford
Edward Holt?, son, 16
Thomas Holt, son, 14
Patience Holt, daur, 12
Elisha Holt, son, 10
All others born Dudley

The house previous has,
Hannah Gill, head, W, 69, Dudley

not this one now1871 Census
34 Windmill End, Dudley
Hannah Tilley, head, W, 73, Horse Nail makers Widow, Rowley
Samuel Body, grandson, 12, Coal miners son, Dudley


that one with Mary Ann Billingham is living with her
on the 1881 census

here...
1881 Census
132 Congreaves Road, Rowley regis
Samuel Tromans, head, 55, Labourer, Cradley Heath
Mary A, wife, 58, Dudley
Prudence, daur, 16, Newtown
Samuel, son, 10, Newtown
Hannah Tilly, wifes sister, W, 80, Dudley

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:04 pm
by Northern Lass
JOSEPH GILL
Marriages:
Spouse: SUSANNAH HOLT
Marriage: 08 NOV 1801 Kingswinford, Stafford,
Extracted

Re: Hannah Tilly

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:05 pm
by Northern Lass
HANNAH GILL
Christening: 29 MAR 1807 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH GILL
Mother: SUSANNA
Extracted birth