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I have an ancestor (3x Great Grandfather) that is named as Thomas Beddoe (in Shropshire) and Beddard (in Worcestershire). He was born around 1811 in Broseley, Shropshire according to all the census information I have for him. He married Sarah Mitton/Minton on January 12, 1829 at St. Leonard's, Broseley and their first daughter was christened there on 13 June 1830. They then moved the whole family to the Dudley area and grew their family. Sarah died around 1845 - 1850 when he moved in with Eliza Guest (my 3x Great Grandmother) and they had seven children then married in 1869. All I have from that and his death information in 1870 is he was born around 1805 - 1811 in Broseley and his father was named Thomas Beddoe as well and was deceased as of 1869 and was a collier too.

I would like the information (if any) that is mentioned in the entry of the marriage of Thomas and Sarah or even the birth of their daughter Eliza in 1830. If anyone has ANY information on them I'd be greatly happy to find him and his lineage. I have all the census information for him and his families and I do have some information on his descendants. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much!

Jessie

Hi Jessie will send you a pm too
moving to General discussion as if Shrops it is outside Bc
if it turns out that the thread weaves back to Bc we will move it back

this is the christening jessie is on about ?



ELIZA BEDDOW
Christening: 13 JUN 1830 Saint Leonard, Broseley, Shropshire,


Father: THOMAS BEDDOW
Mother: SARAH


marriage

THOMAS BEDDOW
SARAH MILTON
Marriage: 12 JAN 1829 Saint Leonard, Broseley, Shropshire,


so can any one find the 1841 census with thomas sarah and eliza in it

here the dudley marriage

GUEST Eliza BEDDARD Thomas 1869 Dudley, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 202/005/234

do you have this cert jessie ?

??Transcribed and looks like Beddall
1841 Census
Primrose Hill, Dudley
Thomas Beddall 30, Stone Miner, Not born in county
Sarah,30, HNot born in County
Eliza, 11, Not born in County
Thomas, 8,
John, 6,
George, 5,
William, 4
James 1
All others born in County

Firstly, thank you everyone!

I have both marriages for Thomas (info for #1 and certificate for #2) and I have the 1841 census, 1851 census, 1861 census for him and his wives. Thomas and second wife both died in 1870. I'm just wondering if there is anymore information on his marriage to Sarah in 1829 such as witnesses or parents names.

One possible set of parents to Thomas are Thomas and Catherine Hall who married in Buildwas, Shropshire on 28 Aug 1803. I can trace them then to Broseley where they had the following children:

Jane 06 Nov 1803
Susannah 24 Mar 1805
Mary 14 May 1809
Eleanor 05 Jan 1812
Harriet 02 Aug 1818

As there are no sons I am wondering if the parish records in St. Leonard's, Broseley are incomplete?

A family I suspect of being Sarah Mitton/Minton's are located in Bridgnorth, Shropshire and were John and Sarah Lloyd married on 27 Nov 1798 at St. Mary Magdalene, Bridgnorth, Shropshire. They had the following children from what I can find:

William 15 Sep 1799 St. Leonards, Bridgnorth
John 10 Feb 1801 St. Leonards, Bridgnorth
Henry 22 Sep 1802 St. Loenards, Bridgnorth
Sarah b. 19 Dec 1805, ch. 06 Jun 1808 St. Mary Magdalene, Bridgnorth
Joseph b. b. 11 Oct 1807, ch. 06 Jun 1808 St. Mary Magdalene Bridgnorth
Richard 13 Sep 1826 St Leonards, Bridgnorth

I just can't figure out why they didn't have more children in between or why the gap could be that big. They appear to be the only John and Sarah Minton in the area. I also found John Minton Jr. and his wife Elizabeth on the 1851 census with the following information:

John Minton 50
Elizabeth Minton 45
George Minton 12
Sarah Minton 10
Joseph Minton 4
Henery Minton 2
An Infant Minton 1 days

Civil parish: Bridgnorth St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Royal Peculiar
Town: Bridgnorth
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bridgnorth
Sub-registration district: Chetton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Household schedule number: 36

The names are consistent in both families with Thomas Beddoe and his children with Sarah Minton/Mitton. I would like to move back if I can rather than forward...

Just thought I'd post all the census information about them:

1841 is as follows (as above by grangers14)
1841 Census
Primrose Hill, Dudley
Thomas Beddall 30, Stone Miner, Not born in county
Sarah,30, HNot born in County
Eliza, 11, Not born in County
Thomas, 8,
John, 6,
George, 5,
William, 4
James 1
All others born in County

1851
Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
Thomas Beddoe 40 born in Broseley
Eliza 25 born in Dudley
Eliza 20 born in Broseley
Thomas 18 born in Dudley
John 16 born in Dudley
George 14 born in Dudley
William 12 born in Dudley
James 10 born in Dudley
Sarah 8 born in Dudley
Emma 2 born in Dudley
Jane 2 born in Dudley (daughter Eliza's illegitimate daughter)

1861
Dudley, Worcestershire (Netherton)
Thomas 49 born in Shropshire
Eliza 38 born in Netherton, Dudley
Thomas 11 born in Netherton, Dudley (actually Emma and female ON the census)
Samuel 8 born in Netherton, Dudley (actually Hannah and female ON the census)
Lela Anne 7 born in Netherton, Dudley (actually Selvanus and the enumerator says female, but IS male - he was my 2x Great Grandfather)
Jane 4 born in Netherton, Dudley
Joseph 1 month born in Netherton, Dudley

Whoever transcribed the 1861 census on this paper did a REALLY bad job. It took me FOREVER to find them LOL. Hope this helps?

Jessie

who was the father for eliza guest and witnesses might able to tie it in to bcc

first marriage if you get a copy of the marriage register from shropsire archieve they will copy it and send it to you for a fee this will have poss witness on that may be of use ?

Father for Thomas was Thomas Beddoe, dead, a blacksmith. Father for Eliza Guest was Thomas Guest, dead, a nailer. I found a baptism for Eliza Guest and a marriage for Thomas. Thomas married Mary Holmes. Witnesses on the marriage certificate are Benjamin and Mary Anne Beddiston.

Is this the James on Census
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

he has a brother John and lookup is down to cf if father Thomas

He is Beddard on marriage and Census but could be the ones Jo flags above
Johns age and James age would fit
both born Dudley

we have that topic in archived here..

how do we establish same one then we can add more to BCC

here is the link from the archived topic on James Beddard ( awaiting bro johns marr look up)

Jessiboo do you have any info on this lot?
do you want to add anything?

just wondering if you have seen this thread ?

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The only thing I'd like to add is the following:

Thomas Beddoe (possibly the son of Thomas Beddoe and Catherine Hall m. 28 Aug 1803 in Buildwas, Shropshire) b. in 1811 married Sarah Minton (daughter of John Minton and Sarah Lloyd m. 27 Nov 1798 at St. Mary Magdalene, Bridgnorth, Shropshire) b. 19 Dec 1805 ch. 6 Jun 1808 at St. Mary Magdalene, Bridgnorth, Shropshire. They married on 12 Jan 1829 at St. Leonard's, Broseley, Shropshire. They had the following children:

Eliza ch. 13 Jun 1830 at St. Leonard's, Broseley - had an illegitimate daughter named Jane in 1849 and married a man with the last name Shelton before 1870 when her Step-Mother Eliza Guest died
Thomas ch. 04 Nov 1832 at St. Thomas, Dudley married Mary Robinson (d/o of Matthew and Rachel Robinson) and had four daughters (any sons?) named Catherine, Sarah, Ann & Eliza
John b. 1835 in Netherton, Dudley & married Nancy Clee and they had the following children: John, Edward, Benjamin, Henry, Thomas, & Mary Ann
George b. 1836 in Netherton, Dudley & got involved with the law and was shipped off to Australia on 11 Mar 1863, never married that I found
James b. 18 Nov 1839 in Netherton, Dudley & married Phoebe Trowman/s and had the following children: Alfred, George, Phoebe, John Thomas & Noah Saint
William b. 1841 in Netherton, Dudley & married Harriet Willets and had the following children: George, Rhoda, William, Thomas, Joseph, & John
Sarah b. 1843 in Netherton, Dudley, could never trace her but have some leads

Sarah Minton died and Thomas Beddoe moved in with Eliza Guest (d/o Thomas Guest and Mary Holmes m. around 1848 and had the following children:

Emma b. 1849 in Netherton, Dudley
Hannah b. 1853 in Netherton, Dudley
Selvanus b. 1 Jun 1854 in Netherton, Dudley and married Elizabeth Hannah Bennett & had the following children: Selvanus, Ellen Elizabeth & Thomas Daniel
Eliza Jane b. 1857 in Netherton, Dudley and married Daniel Miner and had the following children: Joseph, Thomas, Sarah Jane, Elizabeth, Daniel & Eliza
Joseph b. 1861 in Netherton, Dudley, married a Polly
Benjamin b. 29 Aug 1862 in Netherton, Dudley and married Hannah Cooksey and had a son named Emmanuel. He also was in jail for larceny in Warwickshire
Elizabeth b. 1867 in Netherton, Dudley and married Arthur Josiah Lavender and had the following children: John, Arthur, Joseph, Elizabeth, Septimus, Eliza & James

Thanks for that jessieboo

I have added Thomas as Beddows to keep to variant but added note as to spelling

so that lot is yours

I have sent you an email let me know about coming on board BCC now
and you can add the rest of this yourself

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