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pete
this look possible sebright siter in law remarried

1881

20 Tibbetts Garden Rowley Regis, Stafford

Thomas STONELY 50 Halesowen, Worcester, Labourer
Mary STONELY 51 Halesowen, Worcester, Chainmaker
James WOODHOUSE Son 21 Rowley, Stafford, Ironwork
Thomas STONELY Son 16 Rowley, Stafford, Miner (C)
Isabella STONELY Daur 13 Rowley, Stafford, Nurse (Dom)
Alfred STONELY Son 7 Rowley, Stafford, Scholar


her sister in law remarriage

WOODHOUSE Mary STONELY Thomas 1872 Dudley, St Edmund

I wonder if this is Mary first marriage was too - 1850 WOODHOUSE Thomas WILLETTS Mary Dudley, St Thomas

I see them on the 51and 61, then Mary with 3 kids on the 71 Widow Tibbetts Gardens, it's got to be...

if it is thomas woodhouse and mary willetts should have james 1 in the 61 census with them ?

Northern Lass wrote:Ok I my head is spinning with these Tibbetts.

Farside has put a load of this on and I have infilled with some more bits but I confess I dont know where Stonely fits in and that Tibbetts so Pete over to you to add to that one!

i think mary stonley in the census is seabright sister in law

WOODHOUSE Mary STONELY Thomas 1872 Dudley, St Edmund (mary 2nd marriage )

first was to a woodhouse but which one of seabright brothers did she marry and it has been surgested her maiden name is willetts ?

what we need to find is james woodhouse c 1860 in 1861 census with parents


far side will you post them census for 51,61,71 census for mary mother of james woodhouse

I should have posted these earlier..
1851
78
Cradley Heath, Rowley
Mary Woodhouse 20 - Halesowen
Thomas Woodhouse 23 - Rowley
Both chainmakers

1861
199
Tibbett's Garden, Rowley
James Woodhouse 1 Mo
Mary Woodhouse 29 - born Halesowen
Thomas Woodhouse 33 - Chainmaker
Thomas Woodhouse 7
William Woodhouse 2
All others born Rowely

1871
191
Tibbett's Garden
James Woodhouse 9
Mary Woodhouse 42 - widow - Chainmaker - born Halesowen
Mary Woodhouse 5
Thomas Woodhouse 17 - Chainmaker
All others born Rowley

I didn't notice yesterday but 2 doors away at schedule #
189
Tibbett's Garden, Rowley
Isabella Stonely 3
Jane Stonely 14
John Stonely 16
Mary Stonely 12
Maryann Stonely 39 - born Halesowen
Sarah Stonely 9
Thomas Stonely 40 - Ironworker - born Halesowen
Thomas Stonely 6
William Stonely 1
All others born Rowley

look right that mary willetts married a thomas woodhouse

Another connection?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&pid=12205&view=0&bpid=12205

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?view=0&rand=398126315&pid=11866&userid=bcconnections

Do you think the Eliza TIBBETTS b. 1862 Rowley Regis, daughter of John TIBBETTS and Sabra (Seabright) WOODHOUSE, is the same Eliza TIBBETTS b. 1862 Rowley Regis, who married Simeon WOODHOUSE b. abt 1858 Cradley Heath, son of Benjamin WOODHOUSE and Selena TIBBETTS???

This would make Simeon and Eliza 2nd cousins:

Eliza Tibbetts 1884 Dudley (To 1912) Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Simeon Woodhouse 1884 Dudley (To 1912) Staffordshire, Worcestershire

1881 census
At 14 Tibbetts Garden, Rowley Regis, Stafford
John TIBBETTS 51 Rowley, Stafford, Chainmaker
Seabright TIBBETTS 42 Rowley, Stafford, Chainmaker
Mary A. TIBBETTS 23 Rowley, Stafford, Chainmaker
Wm. TIBBETTS 22 Rowley, Stafford, Chainmaker
Eliza TIBBETTS Daur 19 Rowley, Stafford, Chainmaker
John TIBBETTS 13 Rowley, Stafford, Chainmaker
Edmund TIBBETTS 11 Rowley, Stafford, Scholar
Rebecca TIBBETTS 1 Rowley, Stafford

Census 1891
At New Town Lane, Cradley Heath
Simeon WOODHOUSE 32 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Eliza WOODHOUSE 29 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Beatrice WOODHOUSE 6 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Edith WOODHOUSE 3 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Lois WOODHOUSE 1 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

1901 - 4 Plant St., Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
Simeon Woodhouse Head 42 Chain Maker Worker At Home b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Eliza Woodhouse Wife 39 Chain Maker Worker At Home b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Beatrice Woodhouse Dau 16 Chain Maker Worker At Home b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Edith Woodhouse Dau 14 Chain Maker Worker At Home b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Lois Woodhouse Dau 11 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Frank Woodhouse Son 9 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

Ok I have split this from the Tibbetts so we can run with some of these Woodhouses
It will be good to update the tree and build up the Woodhouses.
If anyone can put this lot on that would be great ....think some have gone on already

Thanks guys

The Thomas Woodhouse b 1828 m Mary Willetts she I think went onto to m Thomas Stonely.. I now don't think Thomas Woodhouse is Sebra's brother.. I have added this family separately onto BCC, never know somewhere along they line they have to be related...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =968429976

i agree fs dont think thomas and seabright are bro and sister as he would of been in 1841 census with her unless poss elseware though i still think there related

think that simeon and eliza would need a marriage look up to confirm it ?

here thomas stonley first marriage i think

STONELY Thomas SOUTHALL Mary A 1854 Dudley, St Thomas


wonder if that mary ann southhall is holly thats on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =109745099

Just flagging this to see if we can archive it pending a look up....is it on the look up requests?
Also if someone could just check that the info is on connections and if not please add it that would be cool!




So unless otherwise advised this topic will be archived within 24 hrs

Ok I have looked up the marriage for Thomas Stonely and Mary Ann Southall

it checks out and I can join up the tree.

But something needs checking here so need your help please.

How do we know that the Mary Woodhouse( nee Willetts) that married a Thomas Stonely is the same Mary as on the census with the Thomas Stonely in 1871/1881 and 1891
why cant it be Mary Ann Southall?
and just drops the ann?

we need a death for her then

So that alfred born in 1874 could be Mary Willetts and Thomas stonely

I am going to disconnect kids from the tree until we can prove that the Mary Stonely in 1871 is not Mary ann southall but Mary willetts

did we ever do a look up?

1872
STONELY Thomas WOODHOUSE Mary Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/005/259


can we crack this one guys

1851 Census Rowley Regis, Cradley Heath
Stonely William Hd M M 40 Asst. Stocklaker Leominster Hereford
Jane wife M F 39 Housewife Halesowen Worc
Thomas son U M 20 Asst. Pudler Halesowen Worc
Isabella dau U F 17 Chainmaker Halesowen Worc
William son U M 15 Chainmaker Cradley Worc
Mary Ann dau U F 13 Chainmaker Cradley Heath Staff
Esther dau 11 Cradley Heath Staff
Joseph son 9 scholar Cradley Heath Staff
John son 6 scholar Cradley Heath Staff
George son 4 scholar Cradley Heath Staff
Martha Jane dau 11 mos. Cradley Heath Staff



1871 Tibbett's Garden, Rowley
Thomas Stonely 40 - Ironworker - born Halesowen
Maryann Stonely 39 - born Halesowen
John Stonely 16
Jane Stonely 14
Mary Stonely 12
Sarah Stonely 9
Thomas Stonely 6
Isabella Stonely 3
William Stonely 1
All others born Rowley

1891 44 ???? St Barrow in Furness Lancs

Thomas Stonely 60 shipyard labourer b Worcs Halesowen
Mary Stonely 62 b Worcs Halesowen
Thomas Stonely 25 son b Staffs Rowley
Alfred Stonely 17 son b Staffs Rowley
Thomas Bunford 25
Alfred Ancock 41
Charles Bunford 28
Isabella Bunford 23
Charles H Bunford 1/12

While I am sorting these kids out to Thomas stonely and mary ann southall can anyone please post the 1861 and 1881 for this Thomas stonely
I can add it to those others I posted and we can look at this
if I havent already done it (and cant see it) I will look up that st edmunds
check out who that Thomas stanley that mary woodhouse (nee willetts)married

Can we find betw 1861 and 1881 a death for a Mary ann stonely cradley heath area

will leave a Thomas Stonely on with Mary willetts till confirmed
I think that Alfred then is mary willetts and thomas stonely's kid
will leave him with Mary Willetts with a note

1872
STONELY Mary Ann Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/29/153


Deaths Sep 1872 Stonely Mary Ann 40 Dudley 6c 5 (july/aug/sept)

that marriage in 1872

Marriages Dec 1872
STONELY Thomas Dudley 6c 41
Woodhouse Mary Dudley 6c 41

that works doesnt it

so it looks good
and the age of mary ann age 40 so b 1832
whereas the other is born 1829

what do we think I am going to tweak the tree
and do the look up

rite I have tweaked
need the look up which I will do but I think now this looks sound

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

and Mary ann if you are looking in this is your look up will retitle the post