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Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ? Arcieve

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:38 pm
by peterd
right this one stems from the portmans topic thought of tying the priest into the fletcher who tie into the portmans (this could go on :lol: )

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =668108849


on the 1951 census granson james age 8


now this where it gets good parents

original entry but astriks

PRIEST * Eli FLETCHER Ann 1839 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/002/446

on opening up ?


FLETCHER Ann PRIEST Eli Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/446
FLETCHER Ann SIDAWAY Eli Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/446
FLETCHERS Ann PRIEST Eli Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/446
FLETCHERS Ann SIDAWAY Eli Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/446
PRIEST Eli FLETCHER Ann Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/446
PRIEST Eli FLETCHERS Ann Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/446
SIDAWAY Eli FLETCHER Ann Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/446
SIDAWAY Eli FLETCHERS Ann Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/446


the g son down as priest but his father is also poss a sidaway is he adpoted or using an alias and priest knew ?

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:58 am
by grangers14
Extracted Marriage IGI
Ann Fletcher and Eli Priest or Sidaway, 20th Oct 1839, Saint Thomas, Dudley

1841 Primrose, Dudley

Eli Priest, 20, Cl
Ann, 20,
Maria, 1,
Sarah Price, 14, FS

1851 Baptist End, Dudley

Eli Priest, head, 32, Nail Ironmonger, Rowley
Ann, wife, 29,
Maria, daur, 12,
Joseph, 10,
Hagan? Daur, 5,
Susan, daur, 3,
Ann, daur, 9 months
Sarah Price, serv, 23, House Servant
Emily Fletcher, ?, 11

All others born Dudley

Transcribed as Prent but looks like Priest on image

1861 Cradley Street, Dudley

Eli Priest, head, 42, Accountant and Dealer, ?,
Ann, wife, 41, ?,
Joseph, 19
James, son, 17,
Hagan, daur, 15,
Susan, daur, 12,
Ann, daur, 10,
Emily, daur, 8,
Ruth, 5,
Ellen, daur, 3,
Keturah, daur, 1

All others born Netherton

Transcribed as Prest and looks like Prest

1871; 18 Fletchers Square, Dudley

Eli Prest, head, 51, iron Chain maker, Rowley
Ann, wife, 49,
Joseph, son, 29, Carter on Road
Susan, daur, 22, Dress Maker
Ann, daur, 20, Dress maker
Ruth, daur, 16, Dress maker
Ellen, daur, 13,
Keturah, daur, 11
All others born Netherton

1881 Stourbridge Road, Hasbury

Eli Priest, head, 62, Cou? Clerk nail and chain factor, Rowley
Ann, 60, Netherton
Emily, daur, 29, Netherton

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:23 am
by grangers14
Extracted IGI Christenings,
Sarah Priest, 10th June 1810 Cradley,Father Joseph Priest or Sidaway Mother Maria

Joseph priest, 26th April 1812 , Cradley, Father Joseph Priest, Mother Maria

Samuel priest, 20th Jun 1815, Cradley, Father Joseph Priest, Mother Maria

Eli priest, 21st feb 1819, Cradley, Father Joseph Priest, Mother Maria
?? Death 13 Aug, 1826

David Priest, 20th October 1822, Cradley, Father Joseph Priest, Mother Maria

Ruth Priest, 22nd Jan 1826, Cradley, Father Joseph Priest, Mother Maria

1841 census
Corngreaves, Rowley Regis
Joseph Priest, 50
Maria, 50,
Ruth, 15,
Samuel, 25
David, 15,
Sarah Brown, 30,
Thomas, 5, Not born County
Elizabeth, 2, Not born County
Mariah, 4 month Not born County
Thomas Houghton, 20, MS Not born County
Keturah Kitch? 10 Not born County

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:28 am
by grangers14
1851 census
Surfeit? Hill, Rowley Regis
Joseph Priest, head, 64, Farmer and Publican
Mariah, wife, 60,
Ruth, daur, 20
All born Rowely

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:22 pm
by peterd
submitted

JOSEPH PRIEST
MARIA NOCK
Marriage: 01 FEB 1808 Dudley, Worcester

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:32 pm
by peterd
looks like ruth priest was a witness to solomon Portman 2nd marriage and emliy 11 in 1851 census with eli priest is poss 26 in 1861 census with parents

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:39 pm
by peterd
poss sarah marriage

submitted

SARAH PRIEST
CHARLES BROWN
Marriage: 06 DEC 1835 Bromsgrove, Worcester

1841 census
Corngreaves, Rowley Regis
Joseph Priest, 50
Maria, 50,
Ruth, 15,
Samuel, 25
David, 15,
Sarah Brown, 30,
Thomas, 5, Not born County
Elizabeth, 2, Not born County
Mariah, 4 month Not born County

Thomas Houghton, 20, MS Not born County
Keturah Kitch? 10 Not born County

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:35 pm
by peterd
2nd Marrige by Jan
22 March 1877 St Mary Oldswinford
Solomon Partman- 40- widower- ale merchant- Stourbridge- James Partman - nail Manufacturer
Esther Lymer - 27- widow- Stourbridge- Samuel Davies - Chartermaster
banns
Wit- Elijah Davies / Ruth Priest

1851 Census
Baptist End, Dudley
Eli Priest, head, 32, Nail Ironmonger, Rowley
Ann, wife, 29,
Maria, daur, 12,
Joseph, 10,
Hagan? Daur, 5,
Susan, daur, 3,
Ann, daur, 9 months
Sarah Price, serv, 23, House Servant
Emily Fletcher, ?, 11
All others born Dudley


FLETCHER Ann PRIEST Eli Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/446


peterd wrote:looks like ruth priest was a witness to solomon 2nd marriage and emliy fletcher 11 in 1851 census with eli priest is poss 26 in 1861 census with parents




1861 Cradley rd Dudley

Susan Fletcher 60 wid Netherton, Worcestershire
Julia Fletcher 23
Emily Fletcher 26
Sarah Fletcher 18
Edward Fletcher 32
Ann Portman 5 g daug
Robert Brown 3 g son


is robert SARAH PRIEST & CHARLES BROWN Kid ?



is there enough here to tie them together or can we find robert in 1871 poss with parents ?

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:02 am
by grangers14
?? Possible
1851 census
Yarnold Lane, Bromsgrove
Charles brown, head, 47, Farmer of 140 Acres (3 labourers) Bellbroughton Worcestershire
Sarah, wife, 40, Farmers wife, Rowley regis
Thomas, son, 15,
Elizabeth, daur, 12,
Maria, daur, 10,
Joseph, son, 7,
Chartles, son, 4,
Sarah A, daur, 1
David Priest, visitor, 28, Retired nail Factor, Rowley Regis
William Bend, servant, 16, Farm Servant, Wrocester Salop
All others born Bromsgrove

1861 Census
Brownheath, The Hill , Bromsgrove
Charles Brown, head, 56, Farmer of 200 Aceres employing 3 men and 2 boys, bellbroughton
Sarah, wife, 50, Rowley regis
Elizabeth M, daur, 22,
Maria, daur, 20,
Joseph, son, 17, nail Factor
Charles, son, 14,
Sarah A, daur 1,
Marianne Davis, visitor, 38, berlin Wool and fancy Maker, Worcester
John Underwood, Servant, 15, Cow Boy, Norton
All others born Bromsgrove

1871 Brook House, Bellbroughton,

Sarah brown, head, W, 59, No occupation, Rowley regis
Charles, son, 24, Dealer, Bromsgove

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:48 am
by kdw
Is this still needed ?

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:46 pm
by peterd
kdw wrote:Is this still needed ?



yes just started to put it on

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1861 Cradley rd Dudley

Susan Fletcher 60 wid Netherton, Worcestershire
Julia Fletcher 23
Emily Fletcher 26
Sarah Fletcher 18
Edward Fletcher 32
Ann Portman 5 g daug
Robert Brown 3 g son


is robert SARAH PRIEST & CHARLES BROWN Kid ?



can anyone find robert brown in later census or christening please ?

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:42 pm
by FarSide
Submitted
EDWARD FLETCHER
Marriages:
Spouse: SUSANNAH SIMKISS
Marriage: 24 AUG 1819 Kingswinford

Both otp
by banns
Wit - Joseph Whitehouse, John Walker

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:03 pm
by FarSide
Still looking for Robert..
are these of any help

Extracted
All kids of Charles Brown and Sarah

ELIZABETH MARTHA BROWN
Female Christening: 17 FEB 1839 Cradley, Worcester

THOMAS BROWN
Male Christening: 14 FEB 1836 Cradley, Worcester

SARAH ANN BROWN
Female Christening: 29 MAY 1853 Cradley, Worcester

JOSEPH BROWN
Male Christening: 25 JUN 1843 Cradley, Worcester

MARIA BROWN
Female Christening: 30 MAY 1841 Cradley, Worcester

CHARLES BROWN
Male Christening: 29 MAY 1853 Cradley, Worcester

ties in with these already posted..
1841 census
Corngreaves, Rowley Regis
Joseph Priest, 50
Maria, 50,
Ruth, 15,
Samuel, 25
David, 15,
Sarah Brown, 30,
Thomas, 5, Not born County
Elizabeth, 2, Not born County
Mariah, 4 month Not born County

Thomas Houghton, 20, MS Not born County
Keturah Kitch? 10 Not born County

?? Possible
1851 census
Yarnold Lane, Bromsgrove
Charles brown, head, 47, Farmer of 140 Acres (3 labourers) Bellbroughton Worcestershire
Sarah, wife, 40, Farmers wife, Rowley regis
Thomas, son, 15,
Elizabeth, daur, 12,
Maria, daur, 10,
Joseph, son, 7,
Chartles, son, 4,
Sarah A, daur, 1
David Priest, visitor, 28, Retired nail Factor, Rowley Regis
William Bend, servant, 16, Farm Servant, Wrocester Salop
All others born Bromsgrove

1861 Census
Brownheath, The Hill , Bromsgrove
Charles Brown, head, 56, Farmer of 200 Aceres employing 3 men and 2 boys, bellbroughton
Sarah, wife, 50, Rowley regis
Elizabeth M, daur, 22,
Maria, daur, 20,
Joseph, son, 17, nail Factor
Charles, son, 14,
Sarah A, daur 1,
Marianne Davis, visitor, 38, berlin Wool and fancy Maker, Worcester
John Underwood, Servant, 15, Cow Boy, Norton
All others born Bromsgrove

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:50 pm
by peterd
grangers14 wrote:Extracted IGI Christenings,
Sarah Priest, 10th June 1810 Cradley,Father Joseph Priest or Sidaway Mother Maria

Joseph priest, 26th April 1812 , Cradley, Father Joseph Priest, Mother Maria

Samuel priest, 20th Jun 1815, Cradley, Father Joseph Priest, Mother Maria

Eli priest, 21st feb 1819, Cradley, Father Joseph Priest, Mother Maria (says mary ?)
?? Death 13 Aug, 1826


David Priest, 20th October 1822, Cradley, Father Joseph Priest, Mother Maria

Ruth Priest, 22nd Jan 1826, Cradley, Father Joseph Priest, Mother Maria

1841 census
Corngreaves, Rowley Regis
Joseph Priest, 50
Maria, 50,
Ruth, 15,
Samuel, 25
David, 15,
Sarah Brown, 30,
Thomas, 5, Not born County
Elizabeth, 2, Not born County
Mariah, 4 month Not born County
Thomas Houghton, 20, MS Not born County
Keturah Kitch? 10 Not born County


will put these on later but will keep seperate till marriage look up is back as eli born 1819 to joseph and maria has a death for 1826 ?

Re: Fletcher / Priest or Sidaway ?

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:01 pm
by peterd
going to connect priest and flecther as james is also on census with each family


1851 Primrose Hill Dudley

Susan Fletcher Head Widow 48 Proprietor of Houses + Land
Edward Fletcher Son 23 Miner
Sophia Fletcher Daur. 21
Elihu Fletcher Son 17 Miner
Selina Fletcher Daur. 13
James Priest Grand son 8 Scholar All born Dudley



1861 Cradley Street, Dudley

Eli Priest, head, 42, Accountant and Dealer, ?,
Ann, wife, 41, ?,
Joseph, 19
James, son, 17,
Hagan, daur, 15,
Susan, daur, 12,
Ann, daur, 10,
Emily, daur, 8,
Ruth, 5,
Ellen, daur, 3,
Keturah, daur, 1

All others born Netherton




can some one take a look at these census images and try to work out there names please

also where edward in 1841 and sarah in 1851 julia in 1861 is that selena ?



1841 Halesowen Road Dudley

Edward Fletcher 45 No Occupation Not born in County
Susannah Fletcher 40
Sophia Fletcher 11
Elchna Fletcher 9
Mishack Fletcher 7
who are these ?
Emily Fletcher 2
Selena Fletcher 4

All others born in county


1851 Primrose Hill Dudley

Susan Fletcher Head Widow 48 Proprietor of Houses + Land
Edward Fletcher Son 23 Miner
Sophia Fletcher Daur. 21
Elihu Fletcher Son 17 Miner who this
Selina Fletcher Daur. 13
James Priest Grand son 8 Scholar All born Dudley


1861 Cradley rd Dudley

Susan Fletcher 60 wid Netherton, Worcestershire
Julia Fletcher 23 (is this selina ?)
Emily Fletcher 26
Sarah Fletcher 18
Edward Fletcher 32
Ann Portman 5 g daug
Robert Brown 3 g son