Genealogy Forum UK

My 4 ancestors are:

1. Sarah Ann PATTEN
b. 19.03.1850
Wednesfield
d. 25.02.1933
Wolverhampton

m#1. Alfred WILLIAMS (b. ABT 1848 Shrewsbury d. ABT 1897 Wolverhampton)
07.06.1870
St Thomas
Wolverhampton
occ. latch maker

m#2. Joseph STEVENS (b. ABT 1853 Wednesfield d. 16.08.1941 Trysull Road, Wolverhampton)
26.12.1908
Wolverhampton
occ. Stevens Screw Co Ltd and AJS Motorcyles

**NOTE** this Sarah Ann Patten is d/o George Patten 1827 - 1891 and Mary Ann nee Bagley already listed on BCConnections.

**NOTE** this Alfred Williams is NOT the same Alfred Williams already listed on BCConnections as b. 1847 Rowley Regis


2. (Sir) Charles HAYWARD
b. 03.09.1892
Stewart Street, Wolverhampton
d. 03.02.1983
Jethou, Channel Islands
bur. St John's, Wolverhampton
occ. sidecar maker, AJS, stockbroker

m. Hilda ARNOLD (b. ABT 1891 Wolverhampton d. 04.05.1971)
ABT 1915
St John's
Wolverhampton

**NOTE** grandson of Sarah Ann Patten above.


3. Jabez GRIFFITHS
b. ABT 1837
Wednesfield
d. ABT 1928
Wednesfield
occ. iron broker

m. Mary Ann DUKES (b. ABT 1845 New Invention d. [unknown])
ABT 1858
Wednesfield


4. William HOLLOWAY (sometimes spelt Hadaway, Halaway, Halway, Halloway, Hollay)
b. ABT 1719
Rowley Regis
d. [unknown]
occ. [unknown]

m. Elizabeth EATON (b. ABT 1727 Bilston d. [unknown])
25.03.1749
Halesowen

David can you give me the connection from Charles Hayward to sarah ann patten and I can connect

David this dob for Mary ann doesnt seem right

if they marry 1858
m. Mary Ann DUKES (b. ABT 1845 New Invention d. [unknown])
ABT 1858
Wednesfield

Ok on here

William Holloway
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =712487087

Jabez Griffiths
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =837800179

Sir Charles Hayward
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=87445716

Sarah Ann Patten
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =453913282

please check thru
and if you can clarify queries

Hi Jan

Thanks, looks fine. The queries:

A. (Apologies, thanks for picking this up!) Mary Ann Dukes was b. 1835 New Invention d/o Richard Dukes b. 1801 occ. locksmith and Mary [unknown] b. 1801

B. Sarah Ann Patten b. 1850 m. 1870 Alfred Williams b. 1848 and had FOUR children:

1. Martha Williams [twin]
b. 1870 Wolverhampton

m. 1895
St Paul's Wolverhampton
Edward Caddick
b. 1866 Wolverhampton
occ. cabinet maker, carpenter

2. Mary Williams [twin]
b. 1870 Wolverhampton

m#1. 1889
St John's Wolverhampton
John Hayward
b. Pontesbury, Shropshire
d. 1894 Wolverhampton
occ. bicycle maker

m#2. [unknown]
[unknown]

3. Clara Williams
b. 1876 Heath Town
[no other information]

4. John Leonard Williams
b. 1881 Heath Town
[no other information]


(Sir) Charles Hayward was the second child of John Hayward and Mary nee Williams.

Their first child was:

Marion Daisey Hayward [**note** Daisey spelt with an 'e' in it]
b. 1890 Wolverhampton
d. 1969 [unknown]


On the death of their father, Daisey and Charlie (as they were known) lived with their maternal grandparents, Alfred Williams and Sarah Ann nee Patten, and their mother remarried but we don't have the details of this second marriage. Just to add some flesh to the bones, the biography of Sir Jack Hayward (who used to own Wolverhampton Wanderers FC) says,

“Jack's father, Charles...at the age of only five...and his sister Daisey were orphaned following the death of their father John and the re-marriage of their mother Mary. In keeping with the custom of the day, they became cared for by their grandparents ...he later said, 'My grandfather and grandmother rated as middle-class because they had a drink in the house.'"

Thanks,

David

Ok David I have added Jack Hayward need his dob adding when you join I have est it.
and I have only added Mary Williams and marriage to Jack and then connected up

give you something to do when you join!

Do add all that information re Sir Jack Hayward etc.
sorry not up on footie presume he is deceased
as only those that are deceased can be entered.
Those born before 1920 it is ok to add
any after 1920 only add if you know the date of death or an estimated date.

here is link
if that is ok we can move to stage 2
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=21479155

Hello Jan, looking very good. Yes, something for me to do.

Sir Jack was born 1923 and still very much with us, so he can't be included.

You want the d. o. b. for John Hayward not his grandson Sir Jack, is that right? Sorry I missed it out previously.

John Hayward b. 1868
Pontesbury, Shropshire

Okay, try me on Stage 2, but I see how easy it is to make an error or a typo. It's like walking on ice, isn't it?

Ok I have altered that.

It is just about getting used to the site to start with and if you follow
the do's and don'ts then you should be fine.

Just take it slowly and any problems holla

Ok Stage 2 only another 48 to go!

Yipeeeeeee!



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