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*Arc tbc* --John Prince

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:01 pm
by Northern Lass
Have done a look up that is surplus to requirements!
but as always to save wasting the info going to post here and we can see who they are

let's keep this one for John prince and family and I will open a new thread up for Hannah and family

7 August 1848 St Marys Kingswinford
John Prince- full - bach- miner- Pensnett- Joseph Prince- deceased- labourer
Hannah Hughes- full- widow- Pensnett- Thomas Hall- deceased - shoemaker
banns
X both
Wit- John Franks X / Catherine Evans

Re: John Prince

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:37 pm
by mallosa
Mmmm :?

1851: Turnpike Road, Kingswinford, Staffordshire
John Prince 22 Stone Miner Flintshire, Wales
Hannah Prince 23 Iron Gates, Shropshire

Jane Prince 1 Dau Pensnett, Staffordshire

:grin:

1861: (can't read address but next one is Lower Gornal, Sedgley, Staffordshire
Anne Prince 68 Head Wid House Duties Ferry? Flintshire - Not transcribed but there on the image within the same household
John Prince 33 Head M Coalminer Ferry Flintshire
Hannah Prince James? 44? M Ironbridge, Shropshire (can someone have a look at this please - that James reads as 'family' but there is another word beneath that - also her occupation :?
Alice Elizabeth Rece (Prince on image) 6 Dau b.Bromley, Parish of Hunnington (at least thats what I think it says)
Rosannah Hughes 18 Dau Nailer Workhouse, Dudley

Whoever transcribed that one must have been on the pop the night before :roll:


1871: 3 Groveland Road, Tipton, Staffordshire
John Prince 43 Coalminer Wales
Anna Prince 53 Salop
Alice Prince 16 Dau Staffordshire

1881: Coopers Bank, Himley Road, Sedgley, Staffs
John Gutteridge 33 Head Coalminer Dudley Port, Staffs
Jane Gutteridge 31 Wife Pensnett, Staffs (dau of Hannah?)

Arthur Gutteridge 9 Son
Walter Gutteridge 4 Son
Mary A. Gutteridge 1 Dau
Hannah Prince 64 Lodger Wid Ironbridge, Shropshire
John P. Davies 3 Lodgers Gr.Son

Marriage 1868
PRINCE Jane GUTTRIDGE John Sedgley, All Saints 216/013/412


1891: No 31 Cottage, Coopers Bank, Sedgley
John Gutteridge 45 Head
Jane Gutteridge 42 Wife

Aurther Gutteridge 19 Son S Plate Layer......................Poss Marriage 1895: GUTTERIDGE Arthur MALPASS Mary Lower Gornal, St James 215/007/16
Walter Gutteridge 15 Son Coalminer
Eliza J Gutteridge 6 Dau......................... Poss Marriage 1904: GUTTERIDGE Eliza J OAKLEY Joseph J Dudley Register Office Dudley Register Office DRO/023/144
Lilly Gutteridge 1 Dau
(these are transcribed seperately but are all in the same household)
John P Davis 13 Nephew Lab at Brickyard
Hannah Prince 74 Mother In Law Wid
Mary Davis(says Gutteridge on image) 11 Dau Sedgley

I'll add this asap :wink:

Re: John Prince

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:50 pm
by mallosa
I've added what I can but can anyone find Hannah's 1st marriage to ? Hughes ...here

Re: John Prince

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:29 pm
by Maths girl
mallosa wrote:
1861: (can't read address but next one is Lower Gornal, Sedgley, Staffordshire
Anne Prince 68 Head Wid House Duties Ferry? Flintshire - Not transcribed but there on the image within the same household
John Prince 33 Head M Coalminer Ferry Flintshire
Hannah Prince James? 44? M Ironbridge, Shropshire (can someone have a look at this please - that James reads as 'family' but there is another word beneath that - also her occupation :?
I think "James/family" is "formerly" and the word underneath is "Hughes" -- occupation ??"Banking on Pit Mount"??

Alice Elizabeth Rece (Prince on image) 6 Dau b.Bromley, Parish of Hunnington (at least thats what I think it says)
Rosannah Hughes 18 Dau Nailer Workhouse, Dudley

Whoever transcribed that one must have been on the pop the night before :roll:

Re: John Prince

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:39 pm
by mallosa
:grin: Well done MG!! Is your eyesight really that good?

Re: John Prince

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:51 pm
by Maths girl
mallosa wrote::grin: Well done MG!! Is your eyesight really that good?


Nope just spent hours trying to decipher teenage writing!!

Re: John Prince

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:06 pm
by Maths girl
Just trying to backtrack to try and pick up marriage.

1841 Highfield P B, Sedgely, Wolverhampton
EVANS, Anthony M 55 1786 Labourer
EVANS, Elizabeth F 60 1781
LETCHFIELD, Henery M 20 1821 Labourer
HALL, Hannah F 20 1821 Female Servant

All born out of county


Maths girl wrote:
mallosa wrote:
1861: (can't read address but next one is Lower Gornal, Sedgley, Staffordshire
Anne Prince 68 Head Wid House Duties Ferry? Flintshire - Not transcribed but there on the image within the same household
John Prince 33 Head M Coalminer Ferry Flintshire
Hannah Prince James? 44? M Ironbridge, Shropshire (can someone have a look at this please - that James reads as 'family' but there is another word beneath that - also her occupation :?
I think "James/family" is "formerly" and the word underneath is "Hughes" -- occupation ??"Banking on Pit Mount"??

Alice Elizabeth Rece (Prince on image) 6 Dau b.Bromley, Parish of Hunnington (at least thats what I think it says)
Rosannah Hughes 18 Dau Nailer Workhouse, Dudley

Whoever transcribed that one must have been on the pop the night before :roll:


Looking at Rosannah Hughes born Workhouse Dudley -- is there a place Workhouse near Dudley or was she actually born in the workhouse? and if she was the latter was the mothers' 1st marriage a convenience rather than a fact!?

Re: John Prince

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:19 pm
by Maths girl
or more likely -- Brother Thomas named after father???

1841 Watergate Street, (Raven Yard) Whitchurch

Elizabeth Hall 45 Lodging House Keeper
Thomas Hall 15
Hannah Hall 15

All born Shropshire

Re: John Prince

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:24 pm
by Maths girl
mallosa wrote:I've added what I can but can anyone find Hannah's 1st marriage to ? Hughes ...here


is this a possibility?

Year of Registration: 1841
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Wolverhampton
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Volume: 17

Thomas Clayton 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Mary Dingle 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Hannah Hall 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
William Hughes 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Robert Lloyd 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
William Spruce 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Mary Ann Williams 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Hannah Worthington 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands

Re: John Prince

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:29 pm
by mallosa
Ah! That looks good MG :-)

Re: John Prince

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:40 am
by Northern Lass
Mally can you add and sort this lot pls?

that marriage I looked up would need to be added too....

if you can it would be a big help

:grin: :wink:

Re: John Prince

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:55 am
by mallosa
mallosa wrote:I've added what I can but can anyone find Hannah's 1st marriage to ? Hughes ...here


As you can see, I have already add NL but not completed yet

Re: John Prince

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:09 am
by mallosa
Maths girl wrote:
mallosa wrote:I've added what I can but can anyone find Hannah's 1st marriage to ? Hughes ...here


is this a possibility?

Year of Registration: 1841
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Wolverhampton
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Volume: 17

Thomas Clayton 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Mary Dingle 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Hannah Hall 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
William Hughes 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Robert Lloyd 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
William Spruce 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Mary Ann Williams 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Hannah Worthington 1841 Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands


Could do with a church for this marriage in order for it to be looked up :?

Re: John Prince

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:07 pm
by Northern Lass
Wolverhampton ones cant be looked up Mally
might be on that database

Re: John Prince

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:09 pm
by Northern Lass
Yes it is

http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/ ... ilyhistory

18 Jan 1841St.Georges
William Hughes full b x Miner St.Georges district Joseph Hughes Farmer
&
Hannah Hall full s x -- St.Georges district Thomas Hall Cordwainer
Banns
Wit....James Hall & Elizabeth Hackwood
perf by....J.Coley