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Have done a look up for Lin checking out Thomas's son William Bagnall

William Bagnall is b 1879 marries Lucy Parsons
I am adding marrige and will post link shortly

William's father is Thomas Bagnall a Prover
is this him?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections


can we find William on 1901 prior to 1904 marriage and see if he is with father and family
need a dob for father Thomas and any other detail wife etc

Here is the link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =275220438

one of wits was an Emily Jane Bagnall sister???

1901 Census
BAGNALL, Thomas Head Married M 55 1846 Tube Works Labourer
Handsworth
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Ellen Wife Married F 51 1850
Birmingham
Warwickshire
BAGNALL, William Son Single M 22 1879 Screwer In Tube Works
B'ham
Warwickshire
BAGNALL, Alfred Son Single M 19 1882 Screwer In Tube Works
Smethwick
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 14 1887
Smethwick
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Arthur Son Single M 12 1889
Oldbury
Worcestershire
72, Tump Road, Rowley Regis

That looks like him with Wms occup

what about that other one that 1850 Thomas Bagnall

do we have 2 of them in Oldbury way?

could the 1850 one be ours? or not?

BAGNALL, Joseph Head Married M 41 1820 Carpenter
Round Green
Worcestershire
BAGNALL, Mary Wife Married F 41 1820 Dressmaker
Windsor
Worcestershire
BAGNALL, Mary Jane Daughter Unmarried F 13 1848 Scholar
Oldbury
Worcestershire
BAGNALL, Thomas Son M 10 1851 Scholar
Oldbury
Worcestershire
BAGNALL, Thirza Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar IN BCC http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections
Oldbury
Worcestershire
BAGNALL, Alice Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar
Oldbury
Worcestershire
BAGNALL, Kate Daughter F 2 1859
Oldbury
Worcestershire
Tabernacle Street, Oldbury 1861 Census

rockyfowler wrote:1901 Census
BAGNALL, Thomas Head Married M 55 1846 Tube Works Labourer
Handsworth
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Ellen Wife Married F 51 1850
Birmingham
Warwickshire
BAGNALL, William Son Single M 22 1879 Screwer In Tube Works
B'ham
Warwickshire
BAGNALL, Alfred Son Single M 19 1882 Screwer In Tube Works
Smethwick
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 14 1887
Smethwick
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Arthur Son Single M 12 1889
Oldbury
Worcestershire
72, Tump Road, Rowley Regis

So this Thomas is b abt 1846 and the other one 1850
so looks like 2 different Thomas Bagnalls

1871 Census
BAGNALL, Joseph Head M 51 1820 Worcestershire Builder
BAGNALL, Mary Wife F 51 1820 Berkshire
BAGNALL, Thomas Son M 20 1851 Worcestershire Carpenter
BAGNALL, Thirza Daughter F 18 1853 Worcestershire
BAGNALL, Alice Daughter F 16 1855 Worcestershire
BAGNALL, Kate Daughter F 12 1859 Worcestershire
BAGNALL, Emily Daughter F 10 1861 Worcestershire
Tabernacle Street, Oldbury

rockyfowler wrote:1871 Census
BAGNALL, Joseph Head M 51 1820 Worcestershire Builder
BAGNALL, Mary Wife F 51 1820 Berkshire
BAGNALL, Thomas Son M 20 1851 Worcestershire Carpenter
BAGNALL, Thirza Daughter F 18 1853 Worcestershire
BAGNALL, Alice Daughter F 16 1855 Worcestershire
BAGNALL, Kate Daughter F 12 1859 Worcestershire
BAGNALL, Emily Daughter F 10 1861 Worcestershire
Tabernacle Street, Oldbury

So RF is that a different Thomas than the one that married an Ellen and had a son William

cos it looks different to me
age occup

or am I missing it?

Our Thomas I Think?

1881 Census
BAGNALL, Thomas Head Married M 30 1851 Iron Works Laborer
Harborne
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Ellen Elizh Wife Married F 28 1853 Iron Works Laborer Wife
Birmm
Warwickshire
BAGNALL, Ann Maria Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar
Birmm
Warwickshire
BAGNALL, Louisa Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Tividale
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Ellen Elizh Daughter Single F 10 1871 Nurses Girl (D)
Birmm
Warwickshire
BAGNALL, Wm Thos Son Single M 2 1879
Birmm???
Warwickshire
Back House, Grove St, Harborne (Stafford)


1891 Census-------------------
BROWN, John Thos Head Married M 23 1868 Stoker At A Gas Tube Work
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
BROWN, Mary Wife Married F 22 1869
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Thomas Father In Law Married M 49 1842 Labourer At A Gas Tube Work
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Ellen Daughter Married F 39 1852
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Louisa Sister In Law F 15 1876 General Servant Domestic
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, William Brother In Law M 12 1879 Scholar
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Alfred Brother In Law M 10 1881 Scholar
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Emily Sister In Law F 7 1884 Scholar
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Lizzie Sister In Law F 4 1887
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
BAGNALL, Arthur Brother In Law M 2 1889
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
BROWN, John Son M 2 1889
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
22, Halesowen Street, Black Heath

agreed

so a Thomas Bagnall married an Ellen someone

and that Thomas with Joseph and Mary is prob another one...maybe

I need that marriage and earlier census for a Thomas Bagnall
think ours is born warwickshire way/ Handsworth

1911 census
BAGNALL, Thomas Head Married M 64 1847 Tester Tube Works Handsworth Staffs
BAGNALL, Ellen Wife Married
44 years F 60 1851 Birmingham Warwickshire Eight children -Two died
LEWIS, John Son In Law Married M 25 1886 Nut Cutter Nut And Bolt Trade Coombs Wood Worcs
LEWIS, Emily Daughter Married Four children Three died
7 years F 67 1844 Winsor Green Warwick
LEWIS, John Grandson M 1 1910 Handsworth Staffs
56 Coombs Wood Cottages Halesowen Worcs

Thanks RF
so marriage in 1867 ish

can we see one?

he is b 1847 Handsworth staffs

can we see him on earlier census
could that be him with father Joseph...doesn't feel rite

rockyfowler wrote:1911 census
BAGNALL, Thomas Head Married M 64 1847 Tester Tube Works Handsworth Staffs
BAGNALL, Ellen Wife Married
44 years F 60 1851 Birmingham Warwickshire Eight children -Two died
LEWIS, John Son In Law Married M 25 1886 Nut Cutter Nut And Bolt Trade Coombs Wood Worcs
LEWIS, Emily Daughter Married Four children Three died
7 years F 67 1844 Winsor Green Warwick
LEWIS, John Grandson M 1 1910 Handsworth Staffs
56 Coombs Wood Cottages Halesowen Worcs

I am trying to add this lot now and then we can archive it

can anyone find a marriage for Thomas Bagnall and an Ellen?

thanks Jo for adding all that info from census

going to flag for archiving unless anyone wishes to run with this