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Dennis wrote:
Yep, NL, James (assuming James and Letitia were indeed siblings) married Sarah Ann Murphy on 25 Dec 1884 at St Giles' and Letitia married Humphrey Humphreys at St Thomas', Dudley in 1880. No trace of Letitia after her marriage, but there is a Letitia Humphreys in the USA censuses, born the same year, 1858, sailing to New York via Cherbourg in 1908 and later in Washington, but I think this is a different person. Mysterious

1881 Census
Park Street, Oldbury
Hunphrey Humphries, head, 25, Coal Miner
Litta (as Lilla on ancestry), wife, 22,
Clara, daur, 9 months
\Samuel Humphries, head, 22, Coal Miner
Eliza, wife, 21,
William, son, 2 months
All born Oldbury

Possible Humphrey another marriage? So has Lettita died?
As Humpress on Ancetsry
1891 Census
20, Fishwick Street, Conisbrough, Yorkshire

Humphrey Humphries, head, 34, Miner, Oldbury
Emma, wife, 24, Oldbury
Clara, daur, 10, Oldbury
John henry, 1, Denaby(?) Yorkshire
John Blackwell, lodger, 50, Coal ? Tucknell (?) Nottingham
Sarah Ann, daur, 16, General Servant, Tucknell (?) Nottingham

This is a tricky one, Jo, there seem to be so many Humphrey Humphreys in the censuses and at least two from Oldbury! I'll look into it. D.

But there isnt another Clara with a father Humphrey that I have seen.
Jo

I think you may be right, Jo, Martha was born abt. Mar 1893 in Dewsbury, Yorkshire, I presume H John was as well and William in abt. Jun. 1896. I can't find a record of the marriage, I can't find them in 1891 either.

As Humphreys
1901 Census
Glasshouse Road, Wath, Swinton, Yorkshire
Humphrey Humphreys, head, 45, Boat Loader, NK, Worcestershire
Emma, wife, 36, Worcestershire
John H, son, 11, Denaby
Martha, daur, 8, Swinton
William, son, 5, Swinton
Mark(?) Green, Lodger, 30, Coal Hewer, Rotheram


Transcribed on Ancestry as Humphress
1891 Census
20, Fishwick Street, Conisbrough, Yorkshire
Humphrey Humphries, head, 34, Miner, Oldbury
Emma, wife, 24, Oldbury
Clara, daur, 10, Oldbury
John henry, 1, Denaby(?) Yorkshire
John Blackwell, lodger, 50, Coal Bearer(?) Hucknell(?) Nottingham
Sarah Ann Blackwell, daur, 16, General Servant, Hucknell (?) Nottingham

I wonder if anyone can get them on 1911?

One of the younger childrens birth certificate will give Emmas maiden name.

Possible marriage??
Marriages Mar 1889
Bates Emma Doncaster 9c 810
HUMPHRIES Humphrey Doncaster 9c 810
Prest Mary Ann Doncaster 9c 810
Stockill Mark Doncaster 9c 810


Jo

No probs, Jo:

Humphries, Humphrey, 56, Coal Miner Hewer, b. Worcestershire, Churchbridge [i.e. Oldbury]
Humphries, Emma, wife, married 22 years, aged 47, b. Worcestershire, Churchbridge
Humphries, John Henry, son, single 21, Corporaling [yes, that's what it says! "Coal Miner" crossed out twice ] Coal Mine, Yorks, Donaby
Humphries, William, son, 14,Yorks, Roma TerraceRotherham Sub District:

All living at 78, Heston [?] Road, Kilnhurst, near Rotherham, Yorkshire (West Riding).

That should be Hooton Road, Kilnhurst. I've no idea where Roma Terrace was in Yorkshire, it's not there now according to Google. Denaby (not Donaby) appears to be in South Yorkshire, my oracle Google again:

"Denaby Main Colliery Village, situated between Mexborough and Conisbrough in South Yorkshire, was the original name given to the village built by the Denaby Main Colliery Company to house its workers and their families. This name was used to distinguish it from the village of "Denaby", situated about 1 km. away on the road to Hooton Roberts and Kilnhurst, which, from that time, became known as "Old Denaby". In due course the "Colliery Village" part of the name was lost, leaving the village to be known as "Denaby Main"" (Wikipedia s. v. "Denaby").

married 22 years

That marriage would add up then. Also Denaby is in the Doncaster registration area too.

Wonder when Letitia died?
Jo

Is anything happening with this, is it ready to be archived?
Kaye

Just going to add to BCC then can be archived.
Jo

Ok thanks , let me know when your done.
Kaye

Ive added it but havent added the marriage info as I dont know it.
Jo

Ok Archiving pending lookups
Kaye