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My 4Xg-grandfather was James Nock, born around 1776. He married a Hannah Purton (or Parton) on 20 May 1805. I am interested in contacting anyone who is working backwords from James or Hannah. Two heads are definitely better than one!

In the 1851 census, Hannah is recorded as living with an unmarried daughter-in-law (how is this possible?) Mary. Although both Ancestry and the Black Country website list Mary's surname as Parton, I believe from perusal of the original census image that it should be Purton. Hence I think that James married a Hannah Purton, not Parton. I would also appreciate a second opinion on this.

Hi Chris

this is the link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

I am moving this to the Black Country Genealogy section to run with

chrisb wrote:My 4Xg-grandfather was James Nock, born around 1776. He married a Hannah Purton (or Parton) on 20 May 1805. I am interested in contacting anyone who is working backwords from James or Hannah. Two heads are definitely better than one!

In the 1851 census, Hannah is recorded as living with an unmarried daughter-in-law (how is this possible?) Mary. Although both Ancestry and the Black Country website list Mary's surname as Parton, I believe from perusal of the original census image that it should be Purton. Hence I think that James married a Hannah Purton, not Parton. I would also appreciate a second opinion on this.

It would be useful to view that entry at the church

JAMES NOCK
Marriages:
Spouse: HANNAH PURTON
Marriage: 20 MAY 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, Extracted

I am changing to May and to Purton

1841 Census has
Nocks W House, Rowley regis
James Nock, 60, Ind
Hannah, 70,
Mary Purton, 35,
Sarah Hawkesford, 16, F S
All not born in County.

1851 Census
Rowley Regis
Hannah Nock, W, 83, Halesowen
Mary Purton, daur in law, 48, Propieter of houses, Rowley
Henry Skidmore, grand son, 20, Nail Iron Manager ? Kingswinford
Elizabeth Holding, serv, 19, House Servant, Halesowen
Elizabeth Tromans, serv, 15, House Servant, Rowley

So could she be a wid when she married James
she is a lot older
she has a kid in 1803
then marries in 1805

chrisb wrote:My 4Xg-grandfather was James Nock, born around 1776. He married a Hannah Purton (or Parton) on 20 May 1805. I am interested in contacting anyone who is working backwords from James or Hannah. Two heads are definitely better than one!

In the 1851 census, Hannah is recorded as living with an unmarried daughter-in-law (how is this possible?) Mary. Although both Ancestry and the Black Country website list Mary's surname as Parton, I believe from perusal of the original census image that it should be Purton. Hence I think that James married a Hannah Purton, not Parton. I would also appreciate a second opinion on this.

Census used 'daughter in law' to describe a 'stepdaughter' as well as the wife of a son. Marriage is in 1805, Mary's birth about 1803. Was Mary Hannah's stepdaughter from a previous marriage? Or an Illegitimate child? So, possibly Hannah's maiden name was not Purton/Parton?

Not sure if we can add any of this
if we can and someone would like to do it that would be great
save wasting any of the census info

I think she is a widow if we don't have that marriage down if some kind soul would add it that
would be great see if she is a widow when she marries

I have added the marriage to look ups, I didnt see one there.
I'll add the census.
Jo

grangers14 wrote:I have added the marriage to look ups, I didnt see one there.
I'll add the census.
Jo

thanks Jo

Have added for James Nock
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =825100799

also census on Hannahs too.
Jo

Thanks Jo will now flag to archive

Marriage Info looked up by Jan

St Thomas, Dudley
20th may 1805
James Nock-OTP-Bach-
Hannah Purton-OTP Halesowen-Wid-
Married by license
Both Signed
Witnesses-Sarah Jackson-William Hulston

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =900616520

So we need to find Hannahs maiden name if possible

1851 Census
Rowley Regis
Hannah Nock, W, 83, Halesowen
Mary Purton, daur in law, 48, Propieter of houses, Rowley
Henry Skidmore, grand son, 20, Nail Iron Manager ? Kingswinford
Elizabeth Holding, serv, 19, House Servant, Halesowen
Elizabeth Tromans, serv, 15, House Servant, Rowley

I wonder if Henry Skidmore may hold a clue?
Possible him in
1841 Census
Cradley Bridge to Five Ways
Eliza Skidmore, 30, Ind
Henry, 10,
James, 9,
Eliza, 7,
Mary Hulston, 20, FS, not born County
All others born County

A William Hulston appears as a witness to marriage, may be some connection??

Possible??
IGI extracted Christening
Henry Parkes Skidmore, birth 17 Nov 1830, Christening 18th Jan 1831 Kingswinford, Staffordshire
Father, Henry Parkes Sikdmore Mother Eliza