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Hi all
Well the brick mason is certainly busy with this individual. Much of what I know comes from his obituary and is listed below:

John moved to Oldbury a few years before he died sometime between 1930 and 1950 (only a guess)

His wife's name was Frances Amelia Butler and they had at least 1 daughter Elsie who married Harry Floyd from Stafford

John lived on Vicarage Road and on the manifest for Elsie lists her home as 145 Vicarage Road.

A preliminary service was held at the Trinity Wesley Church with the Revs J.H. Hooper and W. Floyd taken part.

Any help would be much appreciated
Glenn

here elsie marriage

FLOYD Harry SHELDON Elsie 1917 Oldbury, Christ Church West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 12/7/466


if elsie married in oldbury in 1917 poss her father was there before 1930 ?

suneson wrote:Hi all
Well the brick mason is certainly busy with this individual. Much of what I know comes from his obituary and is listed below:

John moved to Oldbury a few years before he died sometime between 1930 and 1950 (only a guess)

His wife's name was Frances Amelia Butler and they had at least 1 daughter Elsie who married Harry Floyd from Stafford

John lived on Vicarage Road and on the manifest for Elsie lists her home as 145 Vicarage Road.

A preliminary service was held at the Trinity Wesley Church with the Revs J.H. Hooper and W. Floyd taken part.

Any help would be much appreciated
Glenn

Given that he was a Weslyan preacher his details could be on a list at the Methodist headquarters - I have to say I have only tried once to get details and not very successfully but admittedly I didn't have too much info in the first place.

When was Elsie born? if it is anywhere near 1913 onwards I find that typing the surname and maiden name of mother into birth registers gives other possible siblings

here the marriage glen, have you got the cert ?

Marriages Sep 1883

BUTLER Frances Amelia Aston 6d 526
Sheldon John Aston 6d 526

poss john and family

1891 52 owen st, Tipton

John Sheldon 43 Boot maker, Dudley, Worcestershire
Francese Amelia Sheldon 30 Islington, London
Joseph Sheldon 8 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Alexander Sheldon 1 Tipton, Staffordshire
Amelia Sheldon 6 Tipton, Staffordshire

carnt find them in 1901 anyone find them or 1911 ? please

Hi peterd

Elsie was my grandmother and when they moved to the US in 1926 they brought very little with them. On her manifest she lists her age as 30 in 1926 - so she was born in 1896.

The obituary states 'The deceased, who came into Oldbury a few years ago, was an accepted local preacher....'. My guess is that he lived in the surrounding area. Elsie's husband, Harry Floyd, seems to have come from Stafford.

Both my grandfather, Harry, and grndmother, Elsie, did not talk about relatives in England and I only became interested in genealogy after their death's.

Thanks very much on the marriage information and also for John's middle name. I do not have the certificates. Can you provide a link etc so I might obtain a copy?

I hope that I can find some living relatives can give me some life stories etc

Many thanks for your response
Glenn


Hi Maths girl

Thanks for your suggestion. I have tried that with no success. Any links that someone from the US can use to help would be appreciated

Thanks
Glenn

peterd wrote:here the marriage glen, have you got the cert ?

Marriages Sep 1883

BUTLER Frances Amelia Aston 6d 526
Sheldon John Aston 6d 526

Glenn
Just checking - given that I can't see John's second name on peterd's posts you haven't done what I do sometimes and mied the place info ie Aston with the second name have you?

Glenn - here is your Grandma born right on date

1901 52, Owen Street, Tipton
SHELDON, John Head Married M 54 1847 Bootmaker Dudley Worcestershire
SHELDON, Frances Amelia Wife Married F 40 1861 London
SHELDON, Amelia Daughter Single F 17 1884 Pupil Teacher Tipton Staffordshire
SHELDON, Alexander Son Single M 11 1890 Tipton Staffordshire
SHELDON, Katie Daughter Single F 9 1892 Sedgley Staffordshire
SHELDON, Gertrude Daughter Single F 1 1900 Sedgley Staffordshire
SHELDON, Elsie Daughter Single F 5 1896 Tipton Staffordshire
SHELDON, Gladys Daughter Single F 0 (6 MOS) 1901 Tipton Staffordshire

Couldnt find them MG

peterd wrote:here the marriage glen, have you got the cert ?

Marriages Sep 1883

BUTLER Frances Amelia Aston 6d 526
Sheldon John Aston 6d 526

to order cert online here the link

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

you will have to register first with them and give them the full details above including the both full names and the ref Aston 6d 526

1911 153 Vicarage Road Oldbury
SHELDON, John Head M 63 1848 Boot And Shoe Maker And Shop Assistant Dudley Worcs
SHELDON, Francess Amelia Wife F 50 1861 London Middlesex
SHELDON, Katie Daughter Single F 19 1892 Shop Asistant Woodsetton
SHELDON, Gertrude Daughter Single F 17 1894 Warehouse House Blaw Woodsetton
SHELDON, Elsie Daughter Single F 15 1896 Tipton Staffs
SHELDON, Gladys Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Girls Tipton Staffs

My guess is the John was a Lay preacher given that they were Methodists

here a couple of site might be worth looking at there in our link section


http://www.sheldonfamilyhistory.co.uk/

http://www.drmikesheldon.com/index.html

Transcribed on Ancestry as Stuldon

1901 Census
52, Owen Street, Tipton
John Sheldon, head, 44, Bootmaker, Dudley
Frances Amelia, wife, 40, London
Amelia, daur, 17, Pupil (?) Tipton
Alexander, son, 11, Tipton
Katie, daur, 7, Sedgley
Gertrude, daur, 1, Sedgley
Elsie, daur, 5, Tipton
Gladys, daur, 6 months, Tipton

Jo

Thanks to all - with John's middle name and the additional info from the 1901 census, I have many leads that I can now follow.

I do have 1 question. It is stated that he was a boot maker. During this period of time would a preacher have a second source of income i.e. a Wesleyan preacher and boot maker at the same time

Again, thanks to all for the information
Glenn

this is the only one i can find in 1881 that looks like him but he married


118 Halesowen St Rowley Regis, Stafford

John SHELDON 34 Dudley ?, Worcester, Shoe Maker
Eliza SHELDON 35 Birmingham, Warwick,
Eliza SHELDON 12 Dudley, Worcester, Scholar
John SHELDON 10 West Bromwich, Stafford, Scholar
Tilly SHELDON 9 West Bromwich, Stafford, Scholar
Alice SHELDON 8 Tipton, Stafford, Scholar
Louisa SHELDON 7 m Tipton, Stafford,


anyone find these in 1891 to rule them out ?

suneson wrote:Thanks to all - with John's middle name and the additional info from the 1901 census, I have many leads that I can now follow.

I do have 1 question. It is stated that he was a boot maker. During this period of time would a preacher have a second source of income i.e. a Wesleyan preacher and boot maker at the same time

Again, thanks to all for the information
Glenn

glenn as Mg said Aston is not john middle name its where he was married in birmingham

if he was a lay preacher then its possible that bootmaker was his full time profession ?