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(Completed) James Polkinghorn
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:51 pm
by steve.jp
(James) Polkinghorn (formerly of Redruth, Cornwall) but in 1881 had migrated north to Dalton-in-Furness, where he married a German lady called Katharina. Anyone with any knowledge of her?
Have move this to general disscusion steve
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:19 pm
by peterd
is this james ?
1881 10 Queen Street Dalton In Furness, Lancashire,
Joseph GUILLIAM 40 Shrewsbury Labourer At Iron Mines
Mary GUILLIAM 41 Wales
Minnie GUILLIAM 10 Wales Scholar
Elizabeth GUILLIAM 8 Dalton, Lancashire, Scholar
John Thomas GUILLIAM 5 Dalton, Lancashire,
Joseph GUILLIAM 3 Dalton, Lancashire,
James POLKINGHORN Boarder U 23 Redruth, Cornwall, Iron Miner
is this a relation of james ?
1881 72 South Row Barrow In Furness, Lancashire
James POLKINGHORN 29 Urswick, Lancashire, Iron Miner
Fanny POLKINGHORN 27 Pontesbury, Shropshire,
John POLKINGHORN 5 Barrow, Lancashire, Scholar
Mary J. POLKINGHORN 3 Barrow, Lancashire,
Amelia POLKINGHORN 1 Barrow, Lancashire,
Richard WEDLOCK Boarder 24 Redruth, Cornwall, Iron Miner
have you got more detail that we can work with ie age parents etc ?
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:42 pm
by peterd
is this him in 1871
1871 Bank top, Radcliffe
William Polkinghorne?? 46 coal miner
Alice Polkinghard 48 Redruth, Cornwall
Ellen Polkinghard 16 cotton spinner
Alice Polkinghard 15 cotton pieces?
Emily Polkinghorne 13 cotton finisher
James Polkinghorne 12 cotton finisher
William Polkinghorne 6
William Champion 28 coal miner
John James 21 coal miner
all others born Phillack, Cornwall
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:54 pm
by grangers14
Or this ??
1891 Census
Egloshayle, Cornwall
James Polkinghorne, head, 30, Wheelwright, Egloshayle
Catherine, wife, 23, Littlepertheswick
Gwendoline, daur, 2, Egloshayle
Frederick, J (could be I) 6 months, Egloshayle
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:01 pm
by grangers14
Oh is this the marriage?
SEP, 1882 Ulverstone,
Katharine Gschwind/Gschwint
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:07 pm
by Jimmy
Possible.
JAMES POLKINGHORNE.
Birth, 05 MAR 1860.
Christening, 25 OCT 1861. Phillack, Cornwall
Parents:
WILLIAM POLKINGHORNE.
ALICE.
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:20 pm
by Jimmy
1861. Egloshayle.
Ezekiel Polkinghorne 42.
Jane Polkinghorne 32.
Prudence A Polkinghorne 12.
Louisa Polkinghorne 10.
Ezekiel Polkinghorne 7.
Emma J Polkinghorne 5.
James Polkinghorne 3. born Egloshayle.
JAMES ROWE POLKENHORN.
Christening, 25 DEC 1858. Egloshayle, Cornwall.
Parents:
EZEKIEL POLKENHORN.
EMMA JANE.
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:31 pm
by Jimmy
Marriages Mar 1849.
Arthur John. Bodmin. 9. 35.
Greenwood Mary Ann. Bodmin. 9. 35.
GREENWOOD Mary Anne. Bodmin. 9. 35.
Hambly Abraham. Bodmin. 9. 35.
Polkinhorn Ezekiel. Bodmin. 9. 35.
Rawlings Mary Anne. Bodmin. 9. 35.
Rowe Emma Jane. Bodmin. 9. 35.
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:06 pm
by steve.jp
Thanks a lot for your help on this.
James POLKINGHORN married Katherina GSCHWIND(T) in 1882 and really this posting is about her.
She was born in Germany about 1860, and lived with James in Dalton-in-Furness, but was widowed in 1890.
The 1891 census lists her as Kate POLKINGHORN,widow,age 30, living with her 6 children in Dalton.
Shortly after this, she entrusted the children into the care of the local workhouse (times were hard) and left the area.
There the trail goes cold. She doesn't appear in the 1901/1911 census, I can't find a record of her death or re-marriage.
Can anyone spot her anywhere after 1891? She is my great grandmother, and it remains a mystery as to what became of her.
Many thanks.
Steve.jp
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:01 pm
by peterd
could this be her
CATHARINA <GESCHWIND>
Christening: 21 FEB 1858 Harperscheid, Rheinland, Preussen
Father: MATHIAS WILHELM GESCHWIND
Mother: ANNA MARIA KLOFT
poss siblings
CATHARINA HUBERTINA <GESCHWIND>
Christening: 20 SEP 1872 Harperscheid, Rheinland, Preussen
MATHIAS HUBERT <GESCHWIND>
Christening: 13 FEB 1863 Harperscheid, Rheinland, Preussen
MARIA <GESCHWIND>
Christening: 31 AUG 1860 Harperscheid, Rheinland, Preussen
LOUISE <GESCHWIND>
Christening: 24 MAY 1865 Harperscheid, Rheinland, Preussen
MAGDALENA <GESCHWIND>
Christening: 14 JUN 1867 Harperscheid, Rheinland, Preussen
MATHIAS WILHELM <GESCHWIND>
Christening: 31 MAR 1870 Harperscheid, Rheinland, Preussen
any one find that 1891 census ?
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:08 pm
by peterd
here the 1891
1891 3 albert st, Dalton, Lancs
Kate Polkinghorn 30
Caroline Polkinghorn 8
Emily Polkinghorn 7
Maggie Polkinghorn 5
Stephen Polkinghorn 4
Annie Polkinghorn 2
Mary Polkinghorn 9/12
all born dalton by kate germany
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:13 pm
by peterd
could she have returned to germany ? reverted back to her maiden name ?
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:26 pm
by peterd
if her travel documets were in her maiden name could she have reverted back to that name
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:37 pm
by Jimmy
1901, shows these three in Ulverston Union Workhouse.
Annie Polkinghorn 13.
Mary Polkinghorn 11.
John Polkinghorn 7.
Where did John come from.
Births Mar 1892.
Polkinghorn John . Bury 8c.. 614.
Births Jun 1893.
Polkinghorn John. Ulverston. 8e. 837.
Re: James Polkinghorn
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:36 am
by steve.jp
Thanks again for your help.
Her father is named John (a farmer) on the marriage cert.
The name Gschwind(t) may have been pronounced without the 'G' and I found her (I think) in 1881 listed as Kate SCHWEND in Bradford aged 19 years. She appears to be an economic migrant, originating from Wurternburg, travelling from Germany with 3 other companions. I think they must have travelled up the Rhine to Rotterdam, then sailed to Hull, and then on to Bradford. Bradford attracted a lot of German migrant workers at that time - there was an area known as 'little Germany'.
But I would love to find a reference to her post 1891. Anyone find anything?
Thanks
Steve