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*Arc* --UPDATE--John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:01 am
by Northern Lass
Done a look up for John Rhodes a Miner
father for John Rhodes is a John Rhodes a miner
will post link in a min
he married Sarah Sawyer ( she checked out ok and she is on Bcc)
marriage in 1856
wits William Parkes and Maria Parkes
just wonder if we can find him and bit more on his family
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:03 am
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:1861 Census Spring Gardens, Halesowen
John Rose, head, 25, Coal Miner
Sarah, wife, 20, Nail Maker
Eliza, dau, 11 month
Jabzes Sawyer, Lodger, m, 54,
All born Halesowen
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:10 am
by Northern Lass
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:27 am
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:grangers14 wrote:1861 Census Spring Gardens, Halesowen
John Rose, head, 25, Coal Miner
Sarah, wife, 20, Nail Maker
Eliza, dau, 11 month
Jabzes Sawyer, Lodger, m, 54,
All born Halesowen
I this them. seems to be the same as above.
1871, Spring Gardens, Birmingham St.
John Rose 38. Ag Lab,
Sarah Rose 32.
Eliza Rose 10.
Susannah Rose 8.
William Rose 6.
James Rose 1.
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:33 am
by Northern Lass
Is it Rose on the image Jimmy
wonder if it is Rose then
as they both made X on cert
so the surname got lost in the BC accent
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:41 am
by Jimmy
Its Rose on all census's.
1881. Hill St, Halesowen.
John Rose 46. Coal & Glede Carter.
Sarah Rose 41.
Susannah Rose 18.
William Rose 16.
James Rose 12.
Frederick Rose 4.
Walter Rose 1.
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:47 am
by Jimmy
I can't see a John Rhodes anywhere that fits.
1851. Looks like Chip Yard, Halesowen.
Lenn Rose. 50. Widow. Ann on image.
Susannah Rose 13.
John Rose 15. Gun barrell borer.
Phoenix Rose 6.
Mathew Bennett 34. lodger.
Mary Bennett 34. lodger.
Sarah Shilcoke 50. lodger.
1841. Spring Hill, Halesowen
John Rose 50. Nailer.
Ann Rose 40.
Emma Rose 9.
John Rose 4.
Susanna Rose 3.
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:53 am
by Northern Lass
and on the 1861 he is surrounded by Partridges and Rudge
who link to Roses
there is a Sarah Partridge age 65 on 1861 head widow
and same house
John Rudge 59 with wife Elizabeth
next hse Charles Partridge 26 with wife Mary ann age 31
and then next hse is John Rose
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:34 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:I can't see a John Rhodes anywhere that fits.
1851. Looks like Chip Yard, Halesowen.
Lenn Rose. 50. Widow. Ann on image.
Susannah Rose 13.
John Rose 15. Gun barrell borer.
Phoenix Rose 6.
Mathew Bennett 34. lodger.
Mary Bennett 34. lodger.
Sarah Shilcoke 50. lodger.
1841. Spring Hill, Halesowen
John Rose 50. Nailer.
Ann Rose 40.
Emma Rose 9.
John Rose 4.
Susanna Rose 3.
I think this is John Rose with an est dob
http://rowleyregis.tribalpages.com/trib ... =508543948dau Susannah age would fit
if so we can connect up
can we find a marriage for John Rose and Ann
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:39 am
by Jimmy
JOHN ROSE.
Marriages:
ANN PARKES.
Marriage, 03 JUL 1832. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
JOHN ROSE.
HANNAH FORRESTER.
Marriage, 23 NOV 1834. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:44 am
by Jimmy
SUSANNA ROSE.
Christening, 08 JUL 1838. Halesowen, Worcester.
.
Parents:
JOHN ROSE.
ANN.
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:57 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:JOHN ROSE.
Marriages:
ANN PARKES.
Marriage, 03 JUL 1832. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
JOHN ROSE.
HANNAH FORRESTER.
Marriage, 23 NOV 1834. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
I think that Parkes one looks good
wits at marriage are Parkes
1861 Parkes next door
I can't believe we dont Have John Rose snr or any of the other kids on BCC
must be some of them
wonder if ann parkes is on
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:38 pm
by Northern Lass
I think there are a load of connections on this one
with the Parkes and Roses
can we start to add this lot?
Do we think this is our Susannah Rose
I believe it is Rose not Rhodes and will change that now
could do with help adding where we can if anyone can help
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =456443922
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:48 pm
by Northern Lass
It is the same one
The Susannah Rose that married Thomas Smart
here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =719885065she is a button maker on marriage doc
on the 1851 she is a Hornbutton maker
also
next door is Emma parkes
she is wit with hubby William Perry on Susannahs marr doc
1850
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PERRY William PARKES Emma Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/002/102
so we can start adding from Susannah and change dob on father jOhn
Re: John Rhodes b abt 1835?
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:52 pm
by Northern Lass
1851. Looks like Chip Yard, Halesowen.
Ann Rose. 50. Widow. b looks like County lane Halesowen???
Susannah Rose dau 13. Horn button maker
John Rose 15. son Gun barrell borer.b Halesowen
Phoenix Rose son 6. b Halesowen
Mathew Bennett 34. lodger. b Liverpool Lancs
Mary Bennett 34. lodger. ditto
Sarah Shilvock 50. lodger. Brecon? South wales