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Note by NL
split this from the Sarah Hollies thread to run with here....

Who is this Henry Hollies?


1871 census
James Sawyer 44 - Gun barrel welder - b Halesowen
Sarah Sawyer 54 - Shopkeeper - b Halesowen
Fanny Sawyer 15 - Nail forger
Sarah C Sawyer 7
Elizabeth Sawyer 3
John Sawyer 1 week
Mary Grove 4 - grandaug
Henry Hollies 48 - Boarder - Ag Lab - b Halesowen

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1851 High Street Halesowen
William Hollies HD M 45 Butcher Halesowen
Sarah Wife 41 All born Halesowen
Henry Son 20 Butcher
William Son 19 Butcher
Sarah DA 17
Joseph Son 15
Mary DA 13
George Son 10
Ann DA 9
Susannah DA 7
John Son 5
James Son 1

Hollies Butchers was still in Halesowen when I lived there, they and the Moseley families were the local Butchers. Linell.



Found another Henry:- 1851 Hagley Street Halesowen
Henry Hollies HD M 40 Dealer in Cattle H/O
Ann Wife 37 born St John's Worcester
Sarah DA 7 H/O
Henry Son 5 H/O
Ann DA 2 H/O
William Son 1 H/O
Mary Ann Challiner Visitor 4 born Rowley
Hannah Howard Servant 17 Halesowen
Jane Pierce Servant 16 Hasbury
Henry Hollies Servant U 33 Halesowen

Henry Cattle Dealer must connect to Wm the Butcher

Linell.

linell wrote:Found another Henry:- 1851 Hagley Street Halesowen
Henry Hollies HD M 40 Dealer in Cattle H/O
Ann Wife 37 born St John's Worcester
Sarah DA 7 H/O
Henry Son 5 H/O
Ann DA 2 H/O
William Son 1 H/O
Mary Ann Challiner Visitor 4 born Rowley
Hannah Howard Servant 17 Halesowen
Jane Pierce Servant 16 Hasbury
Henry Hollies Servant U 33 Halesowen

Henry Cattle Dealer must connect to Wm the Butcher

Linell.

1841 Cornbow Halesowen
HODGETTS, Henry M 45 1796 Shropshire VIEW
HODGETTS, Sarah F 55 1786 VIEW
HOLLIES, Henry M 25 1816 Shropshire VIEW
HODGETTS, Mary F 20 1821 Shropshire VIEW
HODGETTS, Susanna M 14 1827 Shropshire VIEW
HODGETTS, Hannah F 11 1830 Shropshire VIEW
FORREST, Phebe F 50 1791 VIEW
YOUNG, Sarah F 30 1811 VIEW
HODGETTS, Joseph M 14 1827 Shropshire

I presume this is Henry 10 years previous.

Linell.

HENRY HOLLIES.
Christening, 26 DEC 1830, Halesowen, Worcester.
Parents:
WILLIAM HOLLIES.
SARAH.

Submitted.
WILLIAM HOLLIS.
SARAH GROVE.
Marriage, 05 OCT 1829. Dudley, Worcester.

So looks like that one we were chasing is bro to Sarah? maybe...
and this one is the one Jimmy just found

1851 High Street Halesowen
William Hollies HD M 45 Butcher Halesowen
Sarah Wife 41 All born Halesowen
Henry Son 20 Butcher
William Son 19 Butcher
Sarah DA 17
Joseph Son 15
Mary DA 13
George Son 10
Ann DA 9
Susannah DA 7
John Son 5
James Son 1

All extracted.

HENRY HOLLOWAY .
Christening, 20 MAR 1814. Halesowen, Worcester
Parents:
RICHARD HOLLOWAY.
PHOEBE.

MARY ANN HOLLOWAY.
Christening, 14 MAR 1834. Halesowen, Worcester
Parents:
RICHARD HOLLOWAY.
PHOEBE.

ELIZABETH HOLLIES.
Christening, 18 SEP 1822, Halesowen, Worcester
Parents:
RICHARD HOLLIES OR HOLLOWAY.
PHOEBE.

SARAH HOLLIES.
Christening, 17 JUN 1827. Halesowen, Worcester
Parents:
RICHARD HOLLIES.
PHOEBE.

so is that our Henry and age is incorrect and should be 58 in 1871
or is it another Henry

HENRY HOLLOWAY .
Christening, 20 MAR 1814. Halesowen, Worcester
Parents:
RICHARD HOLLOWAY.
PHOEBE.

Extracted.

HENRY HOLLOWAY OR HOLLIES.
Christening, 04 JAN 1829, Halesowen, Worcester

Mother: ANN HOLLOWAY OR HOLLIES.

1841 as this Henry. Hales Owen, Shropshire.

Horse Pool Farm, Hunnington. Academy.

Henry Hollies 10. Pupil.

Northern Lass wrote:so is that our Henry and age is incorrect and should be 58 in 1871
or is it another Henry

HENRY HOLLOWAY .
Christening, 20 MAR 1814. Halesowen, Worcester
Parents:
RICHARD HOLLOWAY.
PHOEBE.

I'm not sure NL which is the Henry aged 48 with James Sawyer in 1871 Wouldn't think he belonged to Wm or Henry the Butchers, their sons seem tied up in the Butchery Business. Will have a fresh look later unless anyone else can see which Henry it is. Linell.

It's not Father Henry or son aged 5 here, could be the one who is a Servant aged 33? Even that is a bit out for someone aged 48 in 1871

1851 Hagley Street Halesowen
Henry Hollies HD M 40 Dealer in Cattle H/O
Ann Wife 37 born St John's Worcester
Sarah DA 7 H/O
Henry Son 5 H/O
Ann DA 2 H/O
William Son 1 H/O
Mary Ann Challiner Visitor 4 born Rowley
Hannah Howard Servant 17 Halesowen
Jane Pierce Servant 16 Hasbury
Henry Hollies Servant U 33 Halesowen

This Henry is also the wrong age:-

1851 High Street Halesowen
William Hollies HD M 45 Butcher Halesowen
Sarah Wife 41 All born Halesowen
Henry Son 20 ButcherWilliam Son 19 Butcher
Sarah DA 17
Joseph Son 15
Mary DA 13
George Son 10
Ann DA 9
Susannah DA 7
John Son 5
James Son 1

That only leaves this one who is aged 25 in 1841:-

1841 Cornbow Halesowen
HODGETTS, Henry M 45 1796 Shropshire
HODGETTS, Sarah F 55 1786
HOLLIES, Henry M 25 1816 Shropshire
HODGETTS, Mary F 20 1821 Shropshire
HODGETTS, Susanna M 14 1827 Shropshire
HODGETTS, Hannah F 11 1830 Shropshire
FORREST, Phebe F 50 1791
YOUNG, Sarah F 30 1811
HODGETTS, Joseph M 14 1827 Shropshire

Not a clue where we are with this

Does anyone wish to continue running with it
or add to Bcc
or shall we archive?