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Done a look up and could do with knowing this guys wife and
and accurate dob for him
he is a rivetmaker on son's marriage doc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =290134728

1881Long Lane, The Hill
John Clift 36 Rivet Maker b RR
Maria Clift 33 Nail Maker b Halesowen
John Clift 11 Scholar,b Halesowen
Agnes Clift 9 Scholar,b Halesowen
Abigail Clift 5 Scholar,b Halesowen
Minnie Clift 2 b Halesowen
Caroline Clift 4mths b Halesowen

Maths girl wrote:1881Long Lane, The Hill
John Clift 36 Rivet Maker b RR
Maria Clift 33 Nail Maker b Halesowen
John Clift 11 Scholar,b Halesowen
Agnes Clift 9 Scholar,b Halesowen
Abigail Clift 5 Scholar,b Halesowen
Minnie Clift 2 b Halesowen
Caroline Clift 4mths b Halesowen

1871 Long Lane
John Clift 26 Rivet Maker
Maria Clift 33 Nail Forger
John Clift 1
George Clift 15 Brother Labourer

All Born Long Lane!!

1871 Long Lane Hill Worcestershire
John Clift Head 26 Rivet Maker
Maria Clift Wife 23 Nail forger
John Clift Son 1
George Clift Brother 15 Labourer
All Born Long Lane

Possible marriage
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
CLIFT John MUCKLOW Maria Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/001/34

1881 Long Lane The Hill
John Clift Head 36 Rivet Maker Born Rowley Regis
Maria Clift Wife 33 Nail Maker Born Halesowen
John Clift Son 11 Scholar Born Halesowen
Agnes Clift Daur. 9 Scholar Born Halesowen
Abigail Clift Daur. 5 Scholar Born Halesowen
Minnie Clift Daur. 2 Born Halesowen
Caroline Clift Daur. 4 Mths Born Halesowen

1891 Long Lane Hill Worcestershire
John Clift Head 47 Rivet Maker
Marie Clift Wife 44 Nailer
John Clift Son 21 Tube Works Labourer
Abgal Clift Daur. 15
Caroline Clift Daur. 11 Scholar
Ernest Clift Son 7 Scholar
Beatrice Clift Daur. 4 Scholar
All Born Long Lane

1901 Long Lane Hill Worcestershire
Marie Clift Head Wid 52 Born Halesowen
Minnie Clift Daur. 22 Bolt and Nut Screwer Born Blackheath
Ernest Clift Son 17 Striker Tube Works Born Blackheath
Beatrice Clift Daur. 14 Bolt and Nut Tracer Born Blackheath

Maths girl wrote:

Maths girl wrote:1881Long Lane, The Hill
John Clift 36 Rivet Maker b RR
Maria Clift 33 Nail Maker b Halesowen
John Clift 11 Scholar,b Halesowen
Agnes Clift 9 Scholar,b Halesowen
Abigail Clift 5 Scholar,b Halesowen
Minnie Clift 2 b Halesowen
Caroline Clift 4mths b Halesowen

1871 Long Lane
John Clift 26 Rivet Maker
Maria Clift 33 Nail Forger
John Clift 1
George Clift 15 Brother Labourer

All Born Long Lane!!

1861 Long Lane, The Hill
Thomas Clift 50 Carter
Caroline Clift 40 Nailer b. Ridgeacre
Mary Clift 18 Nailer b.Cakemore (Relationship here is "Daur" the "" are the enumerators - he has used them regularly to apparently imply doubtful parentage! Obviously a disapprover!)
John Clift 15 Nailer b. Hill
Emma Clift 13 Nailer b.Rowley
William Clift 11 Nail Maker b. Rowley
Hellen Clift 9 Nail Maker b. Rowley
Thomas Clift 7 Hill
George Clift 5 Hill

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch
THOMAS CLIFT
Marriages:
Spouse: CAROLINE ROBINSON Family
Marriage: 25 DEC 1840 Halesowen, Worcester, England

1841 Long Lane Halesowen
Thomas Clift 26 Ag Lab
Caroline Clift 16
Next door
Samuel Robinson 40 Nailer
Phoebe Robinson 40
William Robinson 12
Thoams Robinson 9
Mary Robinson 6
Fillis Robinson 4
Ema Robinson 3 Mths
Sarah Ann Robinson 2
All born in County

Maths girl wrote:

Maths girl wrote:

Maths girl wrote:1881Long Lane, The Hill
John Clift 36 Rivet Maker b RR
Maria Clift 33 Nail Maker b Halesowen
John Clift 11 Scholar,b Halesowen
Agnes Clift 9 Scholar,b Halesowen
Abigail Clift 5 Scholar,b Halesowen
Minnie Clift 2 b Halesowen
Caroline Clift 4mths b Halesowen

1871 Long Lane
John Clift 26 Rivet Maker
Maria Clift 33 Nail Forger
John Clift 1
George Clift 15 Brother Labourer

All Born Long Lane!!

1861 Long Lane, The Hill
Thomas Clift 50 Carter
Caroline Clift 40 Nailer b. Ridgeacre
Mary Clift 18 Nailer b.Cakemore (Relationship here is "Daur" the "" are the enumerators - he has used them regularly to apparently imply doubtful parentage! Obviously a disapprover!)
John Clift 15 Nailer b. Hill
Emma Clift 13 Nailer b.Rowley
William Clift 11 Nail Maker b. Rowley
Hellen Clift 9 Nail Maker b. Rowley
Thomas Clift 7 Hill
George Clift 5 Hill

1851 Long Lane New England??
Thomas Clift 36 Ag Lab
Carroline Clift 28 Nailer
Sarah A Clift 11 Nailer
John Clift 6
Emma Clift 4
William Clift 3
Ellen Clift 6 Mo

1841 Long Lane
Thomas Clift 26 Ag Labourer
Caroline Clift 16

Maths girl wrote:1841 Long Lane
Thomas Clift 26 Ag Labourer
Caroline Clift 16

Possible marriage:
Year of Registration: 1840
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Stourbridge
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Volume: 18

Ellen Cain 1840 Stourbridge Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Thomas Clift 1840 Stourbridge Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Caroline Robinson 1840 Stourbridge Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Solomon Ward 1840 Stourbridge Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire

If anyone can sift thru all this and where it is relevant add to Bcc
and an accurate dob for John etc etc

Adding what I can

kdw wrote:1871 Long Lane Hill Worcestershire
John Clift Head 26 Rivet Maker
Maria Clift Wife 23 Nail forger
John Clift Son 1
George Clift Brother 15 Labourer
All Born Long Lane

Possible marriage
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
CLIFT John MUCKLOW Maria Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/001/34

For future reference....
In 1861 living a few doors away from John's parents, there is a Thomas Mucklow age 87 Widower Retired Nailmaker born Hill, Worcestershire - living as a boarder with a Thomas and Mary Webster

Ahh! I though so....

(Extracted from IGI)
THOMAS WEBSTER
Spouse: MARY MUCKLOW
Marriage: 22 JUL 1833 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick

1851: Long Lane, The Hill, Worcester
Thomas Webster 40 Head Nailer Ridgacre
Mary Webster 41 Wife Nailer Cakemore, Worcester
Jane Webster 17 Dau
Thomas Webster 15 Son
William Webster 9 Son
Mary Webster 5 Dau
Lenny Webster 1 Mo Son
Thomas Mucklow 77 Father In Law Late Nailer
(others born The Hill, Worcester)

kdw wrote:Possible marriage
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
CLIFT John MUCKLOW Maria Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/001/34

Have added what I am certain of and will await above marriage look up to confirm fathers - ...see here

Can be archived for now, pending

Thanks Mally

so are the look ups down for both marriages ie Thomas to Caroline and John to Maria

I think it does look good that father is a Thomas for John Clift but we can bring this back when marriage looked up
to be certain
then we can add the census info for Thomas and Caroline

will archive now