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Hi there, will you be able to help? I am reaserching my father family and have hit Henry Smart who was born in 1808 in Bilston, Staffordshire and married an Eliza Taylor his father is Thomas Smart which is where we are stuck.

Family line = Henry Smart (b)30/10/1910(Bilston)
son of Ellen Clarke & Henry Smart (b)1886 (d)1916
who was son of Phoebe Lockley & Henry Smart (b) 1863 Brierly Hill, Staffordshire,
who was son of Sarah Parr & Henry Smart (b)1840 possibly Worcester,
who was then son of Sarah & Thomas Smart.

All help would be greatly recieved.

J R Smart

this is the right henry


1871 South St, Kingswiniford

Henry Smart 30 Labourer in works
Sarah Smart 34
Levi Smart 10
Henry Smart 8
Hannah Smart 6
Thomas Smart 4
George Smart 1

all born kingwiniford



1881: 47 Gozzard st, Bilston

Henry Smart 41 lab in pot works (iron) Worcestershire
Sarah Smart 43 Gresley, Derbyshire
Levi Smart 19 potter Brittle Lane Dudley
Henry Smart 18 potter Brierly Hill Dudley
Anna Smart 15 servant Brierly Hill Dudley
Thomas Smart 14 Brierly Hill Dudley
Richard Smart 9 Brierly Hill Dudley
Joseph Smart 6 Brierly Hill Dudley
George Smart 2 Brierly Hill Dudley
John W. Smart 1 Brierly Hill Dudley

here the marriage

SMART Henry PARR Sarah 1860 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/002/361

1861 Pottery Lane, Kingswiniford

Henry Smart 21 Earthenware potter Worcester
Sarah Smart 22 Derbyshire

Joolzofsalopia do you have this marrige cert Henry and sarah, what the info on it ? father, jobs, witnesses ?

peterd wrote:Joolzofsalopia do you have this marrige cert Henry and sarah, what the info on it ? father, jobs, witnesses ?

right jools not got back to use so put it on for look up if were going to enter this on bcc we need the evidence so were henry in 1851 and 41 census farther thomas mother sarah ?

there this one but doesnt fit with the thomas and sarah ?


HENRY SMART
Christening: 17 APR 1840 All Saints, Worcester, Worcester,

Father: HENRY SMART
Mother: ELIZA

1891; 3 pipes Meadow, Bilston

Henry Smart 51 General Labourer, Worcester, Worcestershire
Sarah Smart 52 Greasley Common, Derbyshire
Joslyn Smart 15 son, Brierly Hill, Staffordshire
Hannah Rouse (Smart) 24 daug wid, Brierly Hill, Staffordshire
Sarah Rouse 5 gran dau, bilston
George Rouse 4 gran son, bilston

1901: 18 Albert Place, Bilston

Henry Smart 62 School Cleaner,Worcester, Worcestershire
Sarah Smart 63 School Char, Greasley ?, Derbyshire
Joseph Smart 25 Labourer,(drains?)Brierly Hill, Staffordshire

peterd wrote:there this one but doesnt fit with the thomas and sarah ?


HENRY SMART
Christening: 17 APR 1840 All Saints, Worcester, Worcester,

Father: HENRY SMART
Mother: ELIZA

1841 Little fish st Worcester

James Trull abt 1796 Fish Monger St Alban, Worcestershire
Eliza Trull abt 1806 St Alban, Worcestershire
Thomas Trull abt 1828 St Alban, Worcestershire
James Trull abt 1830 St Alban, Worcestershire
Martha Trull abt 1836 St Alban, Worcestershire

looks like in the same house as above

Eliza Smart abt 1816 St Alban, Worcestershire
Henery Smart abt 1840 Worcestershire,


only henry born in county


only one i could find that fits these ?

SMART Henry BUTTON Eliza 1838 Kilmington - St Mary Wiltshire History Centre WARMC18/1/2 ?

started to added to bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =730051157

peterd wrote:this is the right henry


1871 South St, Kingswiniford

Henry Smart 30 Labourer in works
Sarah Smart 34
Levi Smart 10
Henry Smart 8
Hannah Smart 6
Thomas Smart 4
George Smart 1

all born kingwiniford



1881: 47 Gozzard st, Bilston

Henry Smart 41 lab in pot works (iron) Worcestershire
Sarah Smart 43 Gresley, Derbyshire
Levi Smart 19 potter Brittle Lane Dudley
Henry Smart 18 potter Brierly Hill Dudley
Anna Smart 15 servant Brierly Hill Dudley
Thomas Smart 14 Brierly Hill Dudley
Richard Smart 9 Brierly Hill Dudley
Joseph Smart 6 Brierly Hill Dudley
George Smart 2 Brierly Hill Dudley
John W. Smart 1 Brierly Hill Dudley

peterd wrote:
1891; 3 pipes Meadow, Bilston

Henry Smart 51 General Labourer, Worcester, Worcestershire
Sarah Smart 52 Greasley Common, Derbyshire
Joslyn Smart 15 son, Brierly Hill, Staffordshire
Hannah Rouse (Smart) 24 daug wid, Brierly Hill, Staffordshire
Sarah Rouse 5 gran dau, bilston
George Rouse 4 gran son, bilston

Marriages Jun 1885
Rouse Richard Dudley 6c 95
Smart Hannah Dudley 6c 95


where are george and john w in 1891 ?

which one did levi marry ?

Marriages Mar 1882

Cox Thomas Wolverhampton 6b 590
Hancox Charlotte Jane Wolverhampton 6b 590
Priest Kate Wolverhampton 6b 590
SMART Levi Wolverhampton 6b 590

carnt find them on 1891, 1901 census ?

Possible death for Levi?
1883 born about 1862 Wolverhampton

Possible remarriage
Charlotte Jane Smart 1885 Wolverhampton
Either Fred William Collins or Isaac Henry Smith

Possible 1891 census
1, Court, 13, Coseley Street, Charlotte Collins, Head, Mar, 25, Charwoman
William Hancox, brother, 28, General labourer
Both born Bilston

peterd wrote:here the marriage

SMART Henry PARR Sarah 1860 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/002/361

1861 Pottery Lane, Kingswiniford

Henry Smart 21 Earthenware potter Worcester
Sarah Smart 22 Derbyshire

Ok Pete here is the marriage info can you add it in the notes to this ancestor please too save wasting the info....

13 May 1860 at St Andrew's, Netherton

Henry Smart - Minor - Bachelor - Potter - Netherton - Richard Smart - Wheelwright

Sarah Parr - Full - Spinster - Netherton - George Parr - Potter

Wit: George Parr, Mary Ann Brown

Northern Lass wrote:

peterd wrote:here the marriage

SMART Henry PARR Sarah 1860 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/002/361

1861 Pottery Lane, Kingswiniford

Henry Smart 21 Earthenware potter Worcester
Sarah Smart 22 Derbyshire

Ok Pete here is the marriage info can you add it in the notes to this ancestor please too save wasting the info....

13 May 1860 at St Andrew's, Netherton

Henry Smart - Minor - Bachelor - Potter - Netherton - Richard Smart - Wheelwright

Sarah Parr - Full - Spinster - Netherton - George Parr - Potter

Wit: George Parr, Mary Ann Brown poss sister ?

this is sometimes the problem if we dont check info

who was son of Sarah Parr & Henry Smart (b)1840 possibly Worcester,
who was then son of Sarah & Thomas Smart.