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Completed -Reuben Tromans

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:44 pm
by Northern Lass
Have done a look up but not too sure how he fits in
I can't see him on BCC

So posting marriage
can we find him on census and get an idea of his parents dob and mothers name
lets keep Sarah ann webb for another thread I will open

28 June 1869 St James Lower Gornal<br>
Reuben Tromans- 24- bach- chainmaker - Tipton- Henry Tromans- chainmaker<br>
Sarah Ann Webb- 20- spinster- Woodside- Francis Webb- labourer<br>
banns<br>
X both<br>
Wit- Daniel Price ? / Elizabeth Webb

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:40 pm
by linell
96 NEW TOWN 1861
HENRY TROMANS Head Married 42 yrs
ELIZABETH TROMANS Wife Married 40 yrs
ARTHUR TROMANS Son Unmarried 18 yrs
REUBEN TROMANS Son Unmarried 16 yrs
JANE TROMANS Daughter 14 yrs
ELIZA TROMANS Daughter 11 yrs
MARTHA TROMANS Daughter 8 yrs
AGNES TROMANS Daughter 5 yrs
HENRY TROMANS Son 3 yrs

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:22 pm
by grangers14
Rueben as Pruken on Ancestry, looks like Rueben
1851 Census
Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
Henry Tromans, head, 31, Chain Maker, Rowley
Elizabeth, wife, 29,
William, son, 10,
Arthur, son, 8,
Rueben, son, 6,
Jane, daur, 4, Rowley
Eliza, daur, 1, Rowley
All others born Bristol, Gloucestershire

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:33 pm
by grangers14
This is that Rueben on BCC but has Ann Daly as wife?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =231031687

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:49 pm
by grangers14
I wonder is Sarah Ann died and he re married, although bachelor at Anns marriage?
possible death
Sarah Ann Tromans, 1870, Jan-Feb-Mar,Age at Death: 20
Dudley Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 36

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:08 pm
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:This is that Rueben on BCC but has Ann Daly as wife?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =231031687


hmmm did he marry before
on marriage to Ann Daly he is a bach
I had a copy of marriage sent to me
by Olive and it said Bach deffo

31 July 1873 Parish Church of Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Reuben Truman- 26 - bach-chainmaker- chainworks-Henry Truman- chainmaker
Ann Daly- 27- spinster-Pontypridd- William Daly-Quarryman
banns
X both
Wit- Isaac Truman X/ Martha Truman

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:17 pm
by kdw
What about this
1871 Church Street Halesowen
Reuben Truman Head 23 Nail Forger
Sarah Truman Wife 24
Martha Truman Daur.2
All born Halesowen

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:22 pm
by Northern Lass
kdw wrote:What about this
1871 Church Street Halesowen
Reuben Truman Head 23 Nail Forger
Sarah Truman Wife 24
Martha Truman Daur.2
All born Halesowen


Oh heck I dunno
not a chainmaker though but could be ours

:?

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:02 am
by Northern Lass
The one married to Ann Daly b abt 1844 is born Bristol

REUBEN TROWMANS Christening IGI 15 DEC 1844 St Philip And St Jacob, Bristol, Gloucester,
Parents: Father: HENRY TROWMANS Mother: ELIZABETH
Extracted

can't see one b abt 1844 or 1845 in Dudley

the 1847 one has father Jason

so I don't know on this one weird

it could be a first marriage and he is living Tipton area

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:05 am
by Northern Lass
kdw wrote:What about this
1871 Church Street Halesowen
Reuben Truman Head 23 Nail Forger
Sarah Truman Wife 24
Martha Truman Daur.2
All born Halesowen


ok we can exclude this one

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =908791287

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:06 am
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:I wonder is Sarah Ann died and he re married, although bachelor at Anns marriage?
possible death
Sarah Ann Tromans, 1870, Jan-Feb-Mar,Age at Death: 20
Dudley Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 36


I need this death cert I think

the more I look at this I think this is a first marriage for our Reuben here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =908791287

what do we think?

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:32 pm
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:I wonder is Sarah Ann died and he re married, although bachelor at Anns marriage?
possible death
Sarah Ann Tromans, 1870, Jan-Feb-Mar,Age at Death: 20
Dudley Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 36


I think this is her Tipton regis
and he puts Tipton as res on marriage

1870
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
TROMANS Sarah Ann Tipton Sandwell Register Office TIP/42/430

28 June 1869 St James Lower Gornal<br>
Reuben Tromans- 24- bach- chainmaker - Tipton- Henry Tromans- chainmaker<br>
Sarah Ann Webb- 20- spinster- Woodside- Francis Webb- labourer<br>
banns<br>
X both<br>
Wit- Daniel Price ? / Elizabeth Webb

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:57 pm
by grangers14
Seems like a good possible to me.
Finding something to do with her death would be good but added expensive for you.
Jo :)

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:17 pm
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:Seems like a good possible to me.
Finding something to do with her death would be good but added expensive for you.
Jo :)


I am going to have to get that death certif I think
I am very sure it is his first marriage
but not positive

just wondering what the death will show me.
He puts Tipton on marriage for res
A Sarah A Webb dies in Tipton and is the rite age

the marriage info for the Rueben that marries Sarah webb agrees with the one that marries Ann Daly in 1873
the only sticking point is he is a bach on that marriage
and I have a copy of that marriage

so frustrating

Re: Reuben Tromans

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:52 pm
by Maths girl
Northern Lass wrote:
the marriage info for the Rueben that marries Sarah webb agrees with the one that marries Ann Daly in 1873
the only sticking point is he is a bach on that marriage
and I have a copy of that marriage

so frustrating


Did they live close enough so she would have known of his firest marriage or did he keep it a secret? perhaps it was an assumption on behalf of the registrar - they would possibly not have been able to read to correct it