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UPDATE......Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:24 pm
by Northern Lass
Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:08 pm
by grangers14
1891 Census
Cradley Forge, Kingswinford
John Shaw, head, 44, Shingler(?)
Rebecca, wife, 38,
Edith C, daur, 4,
All born England

Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:29 pm
by Tonibunny
If anyone has free access to 1911, that would give the number of years they were married, which would let us narrow down the marriage in the GRO index. They don't appear to have married in the Black Country as I can't find them on the West Midlands BMD site

Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:34 pm
by peterd
linell has here buried c1900 and edith c 1904 ?
Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:47 pm
by Jimmy
I can't see a local marriage. According to BCC, Rebecca died 1900.
But the one who died in 1900 was born about 1859, but on the 1891 census she was born about 1853.
West Midlands Death 1900.
SHAW Rebecca. Kingswinford. Dudley Register Office. KIN/092/56.
Deaths Mar 1900.
Shaw Rebecca,age 41. Stourbridge. 6c. 139.
BCC as Edith Caroline dying 1904,
Deaths Sep 1904.
Shaw Edith, age 0. Stourbridge. 6c. 88.
Wrong Age.
But there is this marriage,
West Midlands Marriage 1914.
SHAW Edith C, BIGGS William H. Cradley Heath, St Luke. Sandwell Register Office. 20/6/255.
Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:16 pm
by Northern Lass
Interesting....so is that Edith marrying
did she die in 1904
cant be her if that one is a baby and she is on the 1891 age 4
Lin where did you get the info on her dying 1904?
do you have the death cert?
Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:49 am
by linell
No she didn't die, I found this in 1911; 55 Graingers Lane Cradley Heath:-
BIGGS, William Head Married M 64 1847 Boot Repairer Netherton Worcestershire
BIGGS, Mary Wife Married
44 years F 62 1849 Dudley Wood Netherton Worcestershire
SHAW, Edith Boarder Single F 24 1887 Kettle Tinner Quarry Bank Staffs
Can you check the Biggs Marriage NL, to make sure Edith's father was John a Shingler.
Many thanks from Linell.
Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:53 am
by Northern Lass
linell wrote:No she didn't die, I found this in 1911; 55 Graingers Lane Cradley Heath:-
BIGGS, William Head Married M 64 1847 Boot Repairer Netherton Worcestershire
BIGGS, Mary Wife Married
44 years F 62 1849 Dudley Wood Netherton Worcestershire
SHAW, Edith Boarder Single F 24 1887 Kettle Tinner Quarry Bank Staffs
Can you check the Biggs Marriage NL, to make sure Edith's father was John a Shingler.
Many thanks from Linell.
Ok have added that and have deleted that date of death
So are we any nearer knowing who this rebecca is?
wonder if her and John shaw were married?
Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:09 am
by Jimmy
1901. Lower High St, Quarry Bank.
John Thaw 56. Married. Shingler. Shaw on the image. born, Quarry Bank.
Edith Thaw 14. born, Quarry Bank.
Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:11 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:1901. Lower High St, Quarry Bank.
John Thaw 56. Married. Shingler. Shaw on the image. born, Quarry Bank.
Edith Thaw 14. born, Quarry Bank.
well done you!
rite I will add that one
so that must be Ediths marriage too
so Rebecca dies 1900
who is she?

Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:22 am
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:I can't see a local marriage. According to BCC, Rebecca died 1900.
But the one who died in 1900 was born about 1859, but on the 1891 census she was born about 1853.
West Midlands Death 1900.
SHAW Rebecca. Kingswinford. Dudley Register Office. KIN/092/56.
Deaths Mar 1900.
Shaw Rebecca,age 41. Stourbridge. 6c. 139.
This could be the right one, on Ancestry it says age 33 in 1891.
John Shaw 46.
Rebecca Shaw 33.Edith C Shaw 4.
hard to make out on Image.
Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:24 am
by linell
Hi NL, I never found a Marriage for John and Rebecca

John was previously Married to Caroline Deeley.
Later from Linell.
Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:13 am
by Jimmy
1881.
John Shaw 35.
Caroline Shaw 35.
Shophia Shaw 15.
Mititosa Shaw 12.
Ann Shaw 10.
Lydia Shaw 8.
It looks like this is Caroline's death reg.
Deaths Dec 1883.
SHAW Caroline. 39, Stourbridge. 6c. 136.
So if he did marry Rebecca it would be after 1883.
Re: Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:13 am
by Northern Lass
thanks guys I don't think we are going to find it other than send
for that birth certif and me purse is empty!
so think I will put
Completed for now on

Re: Completed and arc pend look up---Unknown Rebecca who is she?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:33 pm
by mumbles
John Shaw was Inmate aged 66 former Shingler at Forge in Wordsley Workhouse in 1911