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*Arc tbc* --John Prince and family.....

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:14 pm
by Annie
I need help please I'm trying to find Fanny Fudge on the 1881 , Fanny was born about 1876 at Rowley her nother was Ann Maria born about 1851 Rowley .

Any help will be appreciated.

Annie :-)

Re: Help Please 1881 Census

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:26 pm
by mallosa
1881: 1 Court Vauxhall? St, Dudley Worc
Samuel Fudge 35 Head Coalminer Bristol
Sarah Fudge 28 Wife
Joseph Fudge 10 Son
Jane Fudge 8 Dau
Samuel Fudge 6 Son
William Fudge 4 Son
Fanny Fudge 1 Dau
(others born Dudley, Worc)

Re: Help Please 1881 Census

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:29 pm
by rockyfowler
There are two Fanny Fudges!!! this one was born in 1880 :wink:

Re: Help Please 1881 Census

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:36 pm
by rockyfowler
PRINCE, John Head Married M 62 1819 Engine Driver At A Colly
Netherton
Worcestershire
PRINCE, Hannah Wife Married F 58 1823
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Samuel Son Single M 33 1848 No Situation
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Ann M Daughter Single F 31 1850 Nailer
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, William T Son Single M 27 1854 Engine Driver At A Colly
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, John Son Single M 24 1857 Labourer At An Iron Works
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Hannah J Daughter Single F 18 1863 Nailer
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Emily Daughter Single F 15 1866 Nailer
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Fanny Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Old Hill
Staffordshire
Address:
249, Halesowen Rd, Rowley Regis County: 1881
Staffordshire

Re: Help Please 1881 Census

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:44 pm
by mallosa
Annie wrote:I need help please I'm trying to find Fanny Fudge on the 1881 , Fanny was born about 1876 at Rowley her nother was Ann Maria born about 1851 Rowley .

Any help will be appreciated.

Annie :-)


Sorry Annie, didn't notice the bit about Ann Maria, her mother :roll:

Re: Help Please 1881 Census

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:15 pm
by Northern Lass
rockyfowler wrote:PRINCE, John Head Married M 62 1819 Engine Driver At A Colly
Netherton
Worcestershire
PRINCE, Hannah Wife Married F 58 1823
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Samuel Son Single M 33 1848 No Situation
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Ann M Daughter Single F 31 1850 Nailer
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, William T Son Single M 27 1854 Engine Driver At A Colly
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, John Son Single M 24 1857 Labourer At An Iron Works
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Hannah J Daughter Single F 18 1863 Nailer
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Emily Daughter Single F 15 1866 Nailer
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Fanny Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Old Hill
Staffordshire
Address:
249, Halesowen Rd, Rowley Regis County: 1881
Staffordshire


Annie moved this to Bc area

so that looks like her
in which case why isnt she Fudge!
and is that not her marriage then

did she marry betw 1881 and when ever it was to Daniel tromans

Re: Help Please 1881 Census

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:18 pm
by Northern Lass
sorry it is her on that marriage cos she is Prince

so she marries in 1874 a William Fudge
dau fanny fudge
and those are her parents and for some reason she is down as unm and her maiden name

so we can add that marriage I think and Wms name

Re: Help Please 1881 Census

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:23 pm
by Annie
Ok Northern Lass I will add Williams name it does look ok.

Also thank you for taking the time to help me Mallosa and RF, I found that census Mallosa then saw the mother's name was not the same.

Annie :-)

Re: Help Please 1881 Census

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:53 pm
by Annie
This couls be Fanny's birth:-

Poss
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1876
FUDGE Fanny Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/65/191

So could be a mistake with name on the census


Annie :-)

Re: Help Please 1881 Census

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:52 pm
by Jimmy
West Midlands Marriage 1874.
PRINCE Ann M, FUDGE William, Rowley Regis, St Giles, Sandwell Register Office. 18/4/493.

Marriages Jun 1874.
FELLOWS Thomas Dudley 6c 149.
Fudge William Dudley 6c 149.
Prince Ann Maria Dudley 6c 149.

Walters Mary Dudley 6c 149.

Re: Help Please 1881 Census

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:08 pm
by Jimmy
So one of these could be Ann Maria's parents marriage,

JOHN PRINCE.
HANNAH SMITH.
Marriage, 12 DEC 1841. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

West Midlands Marriage 1841.
PRINCE John, SMITH Hannah, Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/004/287.

West Midlands Marriage 1848.
PRINCE John, HUGHES Hannah, Kingswinford, St Mary, Dudley Register Office, 213/002/269.

Re: ( Complete) Help Please 1881 Census

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:26 am
by Northern Lass
Thanks Jimmy

I will add both as possibles...which one could it be?
not sending for a birth cert

is it 1841 or 1848

have we this John Prince on an earlier census
any earlier kids than 1848?

that may help
will stick em down for look up too see age and occup

Re: Help Please 1881 Census

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:10 pm
by Jimmy
rockyfowler wrote:PRINCE, John Head Married M 62 1819 Engine Driver At A Colly
Netherton
Worcestershire
PRINCE, Hannah Wife Married F 58 1823
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Samuel Son Single M 33 1848 No Situation
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Ann M Daughter Single F 31 1850 Nailer
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, William T Son Single M 27 1854 Engine Driver At A Colly
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, John Son Single M 24 1857 Labourer At An Iron Works
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Hannah J Daughter Single F 18 1863 Nailer
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Emily Daughter Single F 15 1866 Nailer
Old Hill
Staffordshire
PRINCE, Fanny Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Old Hill
Staffordshire
Address:
249, Halesowen Rd, Rowley Regis County: 1881
Staffordshire



This could be the same one, but under Price.

1851. Rowley Regis.
Mary Smith 61. Head.
John Price 31.Logder. Miner. born Dudley.
Hannah Price 28. Wife.
Samuel Price 3. Son.
Ann M Price 2. Dau.
Benjamin Hubble 13. Lodger.
Mercy Hubble 8. Lodger.

Re: John Prince and family.....

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:14 pm
by Jimmy
Same family,

1861. Rowlwy Regis.
John Prince 43. Coal miner.
Hannah Prince 39.
Samuel Prince 13.
Ann Prince 11.
Mary Prince 9.
William Prince 6.
John Prince 4.
Elijah Prince 1.
Benjamin Huball 23. lodger.
Mercy Hublall 18. lodger.

Re: John Prince and family.....

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:41 pm
by Jimmy
Looks like Fanny's Granny.

1871. Netherton.
Fanny Fudge 60. W. Head.
Ann Fudge 21. Dau.
William Fudge 18. Son. Coal miner.
Jane Fudge 4. Dau. born Netherton.

Others born Bristol.