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I may be wrong but it looks like these are all at the same address - could someone check please?

1841: Bumble Hole, Dudley Worc
Edward Harvey 45 Head Bricklayer
Sariah Harvey 45
Edward Harvey 15
Sariah Harvey 15
Tharsia (Thursia) Harvey 9
Selinah Harvey 13
Edward Heath 25 Sh M
Ann Heath 20
Christopher Saunders 25 Bricklayer
Mary Saunders 20
Henry Sunders 6 Mo
(all born in county)

The house marker starts at Ann Heath.

Ancestry have decided the occupants stop at Selinah.

Let me look at somr others....

Find My Past have the household including Henry Saunders and above.

Having a look at their original image, which are by far the clearest on the internet, the house marker is definately next to Ann Heath.

1851: Bumble Hole
Edward Harvey 58 Head Bricklayer
Sarah Harvey 58 Wife
Edward Harvey 26 Son U Bricklayer
Selina Harvey 17 Dau U
(all born Dudley, Worc)

Marriages Sep 1852
GIDDINGS Elizabeth Aston 6d 317
HARVEY Edward Aston 6d 317
HUTCHINS Mark Aston 6d 317
PAGE Caroline Aston 6d 317

1861:Northfield Road, Dudley, Worc
Edward Harvey 37 Head Bricklayer emp 6 men and 1 boy
Elizabeth Harvey 40 Wife Birmingham, Warks
George Harvey 7 Son Dudley, Worc
Albert Harvey 5 Son Dudley, Worc
Anny Harvey 2 Dau Dudley, Worc
Charles Giddings 28 Visitor M Gun Maker Birmingham, Warks (poss Elizabeth's brother?)
George Bunting 14 Visitor Birmingham
Edward Harvey 67 Father Wid Bricklayer Dudley
Henry Sanders 20 Nephew U Bricklayer Dudley

1871: 61 Northfield Road
Edward Harvey 47 Head Bricklayer emp 1 man and 2 boys
Elizabeth Harvey 50 Wife
George Edward Harvey 17 Son U Bricklayer Netherton
Albert Harvey 15 Son Carpenter Netherton
Amy Harvey 12 Dau Netherton
Felix Harvey 9 Son Netherton
Edward Harvey 77 Father Wid

1881: 61 Northfield Road
Edward Harvey 57 Builder emp 5 hands
Elizabeth Harvey 60
George Harvey 27 U Bricklayer
Albert Harvey 25 U Carpenter
Amy Harvey 21 U Dressmaker
Felix Harvey 19 U Carpenter

1891: (no number) Northfield Road
Edward Harvey 67 Builder Wid Dudley
George Harvey 37 Son S Bricklayer Netherton
Albert Harvey 35 Son Wid Carpenter Netherton
Maria Timington 17 Serv S Netherton

The Genealogist, who I think have the most accurate and complete transcriptions, have the houshold stopping at Selinah.

I can understand why Ancestry and TheGenealogist have transcribed the household as stopping with Selina. The way the "S" is written it looks like a house divider but with only one diagnonal slash instead of two.

Looking elsewhere on the form, that was simply the way the enumerator wrote his capital "S".

Strictly speaking the house should include Edward Heath upwards.

MarkCDodd wrote:Find My Past have the household including Henry Saunders and above.

Having a look at their original image, which are by far the clearest on the internet, the house marker is definately next to Ann Heath.

Thanks Mark, just trying to get it right

Now I've looked again it seems that the enumerator uses 'do' (ditto) against the start of each family

I only have access to Ancestry so can only add what I see I suppose we could have a vote

mallosa wrote:I may be wrong but it looks like these are all at the same address - could someone check please?

1841: Bumble Hole, Dudley Worc
Edward Harvey 45 Head Bricklayer
Sariah Harvey 45
Edward Harvey 15
Sariah Harvey 15
Tharsia Harvey 9 .................Poss Marriage 1850: HARVEY Thirza BANNISTER William Rowley Regis, St Giles 18/2/1
Selinah Harvey 13 ................Poss Marriage 1852: HARVEY Selina SMITH Samuel Dudley, St James 202/001/200
Edward Heath 25 Sh M
Ann Heath 20
Christopher Saunders 25 Bricklayer
Mary Saunders 20
Henry Sunders 6 Mo
(all born in county)

This clinches it for me ...

(Extracted)
EDWARD HEATH
Spouse: ANN HARVEY
Marriage: 24 DEC 1837 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

Will add children and further info tomorrow

mallosa wrote:I may be wrong but it looks like these are all at the same address - could someone check please?

1841: Bumble Hole, Dudley Worc
Edward Harvey 45 Head Bricklayer
Sariah Harvey 45
Edward Harvey 15
Sariah Harvey 15
Tharsia (Thursia) Harvey 9
Selinah Harvey 13
Edward Heath 25 Sh M
Ann Heath 20
Christopher Saunders 25 Bricklayer
Mary Saunders 20
Henry Sunders 6 Mo
(all born in county)

mallosa wrote:


[b]1861:Northfield Road, Dudley, Worc
Edward Harvey 37 Head Bricklayer emp 6 men and 1 boy
Elizabeth Harvey 40 Wife Birmingham, Warks
George Harvey 7 Son Dudley, Worc
Albert Harvey 5 Son Dudley, Worc
Anny Harvey 2 Dau Dudley, Worc
Charles Giddings 28 Visitor M Gun Maker Birmingham, Warks (poss Elizabeth's brother?)
George Bunting 14 Visitor Birmingham
Edward Harvey 67 Father Wid Bricklayer Dudley
Henry Sanders 20 Nephew U Bricklayer Dudley

henry in both census with harveys


HARVEY Mary SANDERS Christopher 1840 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/003/199



also this one ?


HARVEY Mary A SAUNDERS William 1841 Oldswinford, St Mary West Midlands Dudley Register Office 003/002/72

Added what I can, will await marriage look ups before adding more ....here

Can now be archived please

Just adding to this as marriage for Selina done

I have changed her name to Selina with note

was there a marrige for Edward Harvey b 1796 and a Sarah?

also this Mary
HARVEY Mary A SAUNDERS William 1841 Oldswinford, St Mary West Midlands Dudley Register Office 003/002/72

must be a different one as on marriage in 1852 Christopher Saunders is wit

did Sarah Harvey marry a Shaw?

Northern Lass wrote:
was there a marrige for Edward Harvey b 1796 and a Sarah?

Poss??

From IGI (Extracted)

EDWARD HARVEY
Spouse: SARAH ROBINSON
Marriage: 23 AUG 1812 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick

mallosa wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:
was there a marrige for Edward Harvey b 1796 and a Sarah?

Poss??

From IGI (Extracted)

EDWARD HARVEY
Spouse: SARAH ROBINSON
Marriage: 23 AUG 1812 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick

stick that in the notes as a poss san

This look up was done but not posted ....
anyway here tis now

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

unless you want to run with more on Harveys Mally we can archive