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Hi

Browsing through the Black Country Connections tree I came upon Samuel Dimmock [born 1814] & his family and would like to offer a couple of suggestions in regard to him from information I've gathered from various sources including genes reunited.

Samuel appears to have been married twice - firstly to a Sarah Malpass at Halesowen [25/12/1829] and then to Elizabeth Hughes at Dudley in 1883. Elizabeth was born circa 1810 in Kingswinford Staffordshire and died 1889 in Dudley.

Samuel, the son of Joseph [born 1765 in Dudley] & Mary nee Stephens [born 1777], had at least 7 children - the one not listed on Black Country Connections is Sarah born 1834 at Brierley Hill Staffordshire.

Samuel died in 1878 - registered at Dudley.

Hope this helps someone.

Doug

Hi Doug

Ok we would need to check this out as it is best to be wary of others trees unless checked out
here is the link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =602487702

what sources do you have for the marriage?
do you have that cert?
or looked it up for Samuel and Elizabeth?
also that first one has that been looked up to see any info on Samuel wits etc?

anyone got the regis for halesowen pls for that marriage
and can we find that 2nd marriage to look up on wmbmsgh

any certs for dau Sarah or ref on census for her?
and death cert?

Halesowen Parish Reg
25 Dec 1829
Samuel X Dimmock otp Bach and Sarah X Malpass otp Spin by GS (Curate)
Wit: James X Weaver and Prudence X Weaver

If Samuel died 1878 how could he marry 1883

kdw wrote:Halesowen Parish Reg
25 Dec 1829
Samuel X Dimmock otp Bach and Sarah X Malpass otp Spin by GS (Curate)
Wit: James X Weaver and Prudence X Weaver

If Samuel died 1878 how could he marry 1883

and Samuel if b 1814 would have been age 15 when married
bit young....doesn't gel this at the moment

Hi

The 1883 date was a typo it should have been 1833.

Samuel's christening according to the IGI is 9/2/1812 which would have made him at least 17 when he married Sarah - also the witnesses at this wedding were James & Prudence Weaver - this may be Samuel's sister if the user submitted stuff to the IGI is to be believed.

The information I got was from corresponding with others researching the Dimmocks - I didn't ask for or offer copies of certificates unless they were my direct ancestors.

Doug

DIMMOCK, James Head Married M 45 1806 Coal Miner & Beer Seller
Dudley
Worcestershire
DIMMOCK, Sarah Wife Married F 45 1806
Rowley
Staffordshire
DIMMOCK, Joseph Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Grocer
Dudley
Worcestershire
DIMMOCK, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836
Rowley
Staffordshire
DIMMOCK, James Son Unmarried M 12 1839 Scholar
Rowley
Staffordshire
DIMMOCK, Ephraim Son Unmarried M 10 1841 Scholar
Rowley
Staffordshire
DIMMOCK, Alfred Son M 5 1846 Scholar
Rowley
Staffordshire VIEW
DIMMOCK, Harriett Daughter F 1 1850
Halesowen

Address:
Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis County:1851 census prob not relavant
Staffordshire

The only Samuel in Dudley born about 1813 on the 1851 Census is this one:-

Mushroom Netherton
Samuel Dimmock HD M 37 Coal Miner born Dudley
Elizabeth Wife 41 Kingswinford
Benjamin Son 13 Dudley
Joseph Son 11 Dudley
Samuel Son 9 Dudley
William Son 7 Dudley
Johannah DA 5 Dudley
Betsey DA 3 Dudley

This line fits with Doug's information regarding second wife Elizabeth Hughes born Kingswinford.

Linell.

This is the family, children of Joseph and Mary Dimmock:-
Prudence 24.3.1799 Cradley
Mary Ann 9.10.1808 St Thomas
Betty 23.2.1806 St Thomas
William 29.4.1810 St Thomas
Joseph 7.2.1802 St Thomas
Thomas 16.4.1815 St Thomas
Benjamin 19.2.1804 St Thomas
Samuel 9.2.1812 St Thomas

Prudence Dimmock Married James Weaver 27.9.1819 St Thomas Dudley.

Linell.

I have Joseph 1840 son of Samuel and Elizabeth ?
Joseph Married Elizabeth Billingham
Their Son Samuel 1865 Married Julia Griffiths (Witnesses William Dimmock and Fanny Matilda Whitehouse)
Their daughter Dora Gladys 1894 RR Married Howard Haynes, my Grandfather's brother.

This is the tree:- http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =350336021

So you connect to me then Doug

Linell.

HI Lin can you add any of this then
do we agree on that 1829 marriage then?

looks good with that wit Prudence

what about this Elizabeth can we find a marriage to look it up?

Hi NL, yes I am sure what we have on BCC is correct and the same family that Doug was looking for. Will sort out the Marriage Look Ups and then add any new info to BCC.

Linell.

Northern Lass wrote:

kdw wrote:Halesowen Parish Reg
25 Dec 1829
Samuel X Dimmock otp Bach and Sarah X Malpass otp Spin by GS (Curate)
Wit: James X Weaver and Prudence X Weaver

If Samuel died 1878 how could he marry 1883

and Samuel if b 1814 would have been age 15 when married
bit young....doesn't gel this at the moment

That marriage must be correct as Samuel's sister Prudence is a Witness, need to find the one for Elizabeth Hughes in 1833. Later from Linell.

Great!
can you add the parents of Samuel and all those kids they had (Joseph and Mary)
I have altered his dob to 1812
but those bapts could do with being entered.
I think we could add that marriage too

is there a marriage in 1833?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =242753946

Completed............

Linell.

Excellent!

thanks for adding all that Linell
will now flag to archive