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unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:09 am
by peterd
here a johnson not on bcc living close by other johnson that are on bcc who is he does he connect to the other families ?



1881 Ross Cottages Rowley Regis, Stafford

Harry L. JOHNSON 22 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Factor
Mary A. JOHNSON 25 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Maud M. JOHNSON 9 m Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:49 am
by gardener
Hi

I thought it was this couple
JOHNSON Harry L GADD Mary A Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/5/362

only that marriage is added as a note to
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =908124567

and there Harry has the middle name of Zebulon and daughter Maud is a Gadd born 1878 rather than 1880 (even though the marriage details give her father as Harry Johnson) So I am confused.

p.s. I think it is nail factor for occupation in 1881

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:54 am
by peterd
can anyone find the above on later censuses please

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:58 am
by Northern Lass
Dont know about the middle name will ask Mumbles on that one
unless we can verify via a bapt

here is maud so that can be changed
Births Sep 1880
Johnson Maud Mary Dudley 6c 4

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:04 pm
by Northern Lass
Updated Maud Mary

not sure on father
mumbles added Zebulon
and on here it is

Births Dec 1858
Johnson Harry Zebudson Dudley 6c 2

the marriage entry has L but then an L can look like a Z

so bapt would be good

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:06 pm
by Northern Lass
gardener wrote:Hi

I thought it was this couple
JOHNSON Harry L GADD Mary A Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/5/362

only that marriage is added as a note to
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =908124567

and there Harry has the middle name of Zebulon and daughter Maud is a Gadd born 1878 rather than 1880 (even though the marriage details give her father as Harry Johnson) So I am confused.

p.s. I think it is nail factor for occupation in 1881


I agree think that is the lot here

1881 Ross Cottages Rowley Regis, Stafford
Harry L. JOHNSON 22 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Factor
Mary A. JOHNSON 25 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Maud M. JOHNSON 9 m Rowley Regis, Stafford,

adding that census now

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:10 pm
by Northern Lass
I will add this bapt

Why is she Emma?

we have Hannah?


Harry Zebulon Johnson Christening: 13 NOV 1859 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Father: Joseph Johnson
Mother: Emma Johnson
Extracted

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:12 pm
by gardener
FreeBMD has

Sep qtr 1879
Harry Zebulun Johnson (same page) Mary Alice Gadd in Dudley district

So I think the other one must be a mistranscript of Z/L

1891 is fairly clear

Ross, RR
Henry Z Johnson 32 nail manufacturer
Mary A ditto wife
Maud M ditto dau 10
Major T son diito 9
Ellen E ditto dau 7
Joseph H ditto son 6
Bertha A dau 4
Edward G son 3
Thomas G son 5m
all born RR

(1901 Maud M Johnson is niece to Ellen Gadd wid aged 69)

1901
Ross RR
Alice Johnson head widow 46
Major T ditto son 19
Ellen E ditto dau 17
Bertha A ditto dau 17
Edward G ditto son 13
Thomas G ditto son 10


(posting anyway even though it crossed )

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:26 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok I am lost on why Emma on that extracted record and Hannah on census


1851 Powke Lane Nailer

1861 RR shepherds fold
Joseph Johnson h 30 warehouseman b RR
Hannah wife 34
Joseph son 5
harry 2
george 2mths


1881 10 Ross Rowley Regis, Stafford

Joseph JOHNSON 58 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Forger
Hannah JOHNSON 54 Rowley Regis, Stafford,


unless 2nd mariage
or another Harry
but the area Ross checks out

:?

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:29 pm
by Northern Lass
anyone see a marriage for a Hannah
or Joseph on 1841 census and 1851 who is he with

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:42 pm
by gardener
At least we are confused in good company!

1841
Shepards Fold RR
Henry Johnson 42 nailer y
Hetty ditto 41 n
Joseph ditto 18 y
Henrietta ditto 14 y
henry ditto 11 y
Eliza ditto 7 y
Jason? ditto 3 y
Albert ditto 1m y

1851
Powkes Lane RR
Joseph Johnson head m 29 nailer RR
Hannah ditto wife m 24 nailer RR
William Stokes lodger 12
Thomas Siviter visiter 9

1844
JOHNSON Joseph MULLET Anna Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/001/1
that seems to be the Mullet marriage

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:09 pm
by peterd
Northern Lass wrote:I will add this bapt

Why is she Emma?

we have Hannah?


Harry Zebulon Johnson Christening: 13 NOV 1859 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Father: Joseph Johnson
Mother: Emma Johnson
Extracted


two siblings either side of harry but mother hannah

Henrietta Johnson
Christening: 16 SEP 1855 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

Hannah Eliza Johnson
Christening: 05 APR 1863 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England


poss who transcribed it messed up ?

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:13 pm
by peterd
there this marriage ?

JOHNSON Joseph EMERY Emma 1842 West Bromwich, All Saints West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 22/2/241

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:28 pm
by Northern Lass
I would like to know for sure the mothers name
I think it has been mistranscribed

I am wondering if she is a rosehannah Mullett

Re: unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:30 pm
by Northern Lass
peterd wrote:there this marriage ?

JOHNSON Joseph EMERY Emma 1842 West Bromwich, All Saints West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 22/2/241


so either that one or
this one

1844
JOHNSON Joseph MULLET Anna Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/001/1
that seems to be the Mullet marriage

can we find that couple on the census?