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As a follow on from Elwell/Parsons/Parish research I noted that Lydia Elwell was living with Emanuel Shilvock and his wife Caroline (nee Bennett) in 1911
Emmanuel I believe was son of Alfred Shilvock whom Linell has on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections
Alfred in turn I believe married a Maria Willitts
SHILVOCK Alfred WILLITTS Maria Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/002/301
Census records:-
1841 Islington Halesowen Shrops.
William Shilvock 40 Nailer
Mary Shilvock 40
Josiah Shilvock 15 b. Not Shrops
Ann Shilvock 15
Obedience Shilvock 10
Daniel Shilvock 10
Emmanuel Shilvock 5
Alfred Shilvock 4
Rest Born Shropshire

1851 Census Islington Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
William Shilvock Head 54 Nail Maker
Mary Shilvock wife 54 Nail Maker
Daniel Shilvock son 21 Nail Maker
Emmanuel Shilvock son 19 Nail Maker
Alfred Shilvock son 14 Nail Maker
William Hackett visitor 7 Scholar
Elizabeth Basterfield 8 Scholar
All born Halesowen Worcs.

1861 Census Crescent Hasbury Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Alfred Shilvock Head 22 Nailer
Maria Shilvock wife 25 Nailer
Daniel Shilvock son 4 Scholar
All born Halesowen Worcs.

1871 Census Crescent Hasbury Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Alfred Shilvock Head 34 Nailer
Maria Shilvock wife 37 Nailer
Daniel Shilvock son 14 Nailer
Emmanuel Shilvock 9 Nailer born Hasbury Worcs.
William M. Shilvock 5 born Hasbury Worcs.
Joseph H. Shilvock 3 born Hasbury Worcs.
All Rest born Halesowen Worcs.

1881 Census Shelton Lane Hasbury Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Alfred Shilvock Head 44 Navvy
Maria Shilvock wife 47
Daniel Shilvock son 24 Navvy
Emmanuel Shilvock son 18 Collier
Charles Shilvock 15 Forge Iron Iron Works
Joseph Shilvock 13 Labourer Iron Works
James Shilvock son 10 Scholar
Eliza Shilvock dau 6 scholar
Sarah Shilvock dau 3 Scholar
Mary Shilvock dau 1 Scholar
All Rest born Halesowen Worcs.

1891 Census Shelton Lane Hawne Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Emmanuel Shilvock Head 29 Coal Miner
Caroline Shilvock wife 26
Lily Shilvock dau 4
William F. Shilvock son 10mths.
All born Halesowen Worcs.

1901 Census Bell Vale Hawne Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Emmanuel Shilvock Head 39 Coal Miner Hewer
Caroline Shilvock wife 37
Lily Shilvock dau 16 Tailoress
William Shilvock son 11
George Shilvock son 6
Edith Shilvock son 3
Arthur Shilvock son 1 Mth.
All born Halesowen Worcs.
All born Halesowen Worcs.

Oh well spotted there Mumbles, must be this Maria, daughter of James Willetts from Hayseech.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =201272664

Will post a marriage look up, many thanks from Linell.

You are working well Mumbles at this rate the whole tree will be connected!

I have connected up Alfred to Emmanuel and will confirm Emmanuels marriage
but the census info looks a match
I have added Maria Willetts and we have that marriage down so if father is a James we can have a look again and poss
join Maria up to that James

Mumbles can you add all the census info for Alfred and Maria and kids etc if you got a min
pls

All added Nl,

Very many thanks will do the look ups and bring back this topic

will flag now to archive pend look ups

This one was a bit of a surprise and not totally convinced that the PR is correct
so we might need to delve

The father for Emmanuel that married Caroline Bennnett was a Thomas Shilvock nailer
marriage info is here

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =431074444

unless he is a Thomas Alfred the father

or we have 2 Emmanuels

I have disconnected and added Emmanuel with Alfred back here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =443638916

very odd though bearing in mind the 1881 and 1891 for Alfred and Emmanuel and Caroline

I have also done the look up for Alfred Shilvock and Maria Willetts same thread
Alfreds father is William a nailer so that checks

and

Maria Willettts has a father James Willetts grinder

this does look like Maria
just want to confirm fathers occup in 1851/61
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =766717992

can we find James Willetts on census pls for those yrs

rite got him in Spring Hill in 1851 with Maria
he is a file grinder
so that fits and will connect

submitted

Emmanuel Shilvock
Birth: 1862 Halesowen, Worcester, England

Father: Alfred Shilvock
Mother: Maria Willets


Spouse: Caroline
Birth: 1865 Cradley, Staffordshire, England

Thanks for the connection Mumbles and the Look Up from NL, have updated my tree and connected the two families

Many thanks from Linell.

This is now Completed