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*Arc tbc *Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:11 am
by Northern Lass
Kaye has done a look up and I have added it here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =707291924

could do with finding Roland/Rowland on census prior to marriage in 1863

his father is a John horsenail maker
Wits are....Philip Harris...could be a bro?
and it looked like Truman/Ann Harris

need to confirm dob for John and check not on census already
also Rolands ma would be good

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:32 am
by kdw
1841 Cradley Fields
John Harris 25 Nailer
Sarah Harris 20
Ellen Harris 1
All born in County
1
1851 Ash Bank
John Harris Head 36 Nail Maker
Sarah Harris Wife 31 Nail MakerEllen Harris Daur. 10 Nail Maker
Philip Harris Son 9 Nail maker
Rolan Harris Son 6 Nail Maker
Nathan Harris 4 Scholar (Think this should be True Ann )
Caroline Harris Daur. 7 mths
All born Cradley

1861 Ash Bank
John Harris Head 46 Nailer
Sarah Harris Wife 41
Philip Harris Son 19 Nailer
Roland Harris 16 Nailer
True A Harris Daur. 14 Nailer
Caroline Harris Daur. 10 Nailer
Alfred Harris Son 6 Scholar

From A Mirror to The Flock 1857
Lodge Forge
Harris John New Connection Sarah New Connection
Ellen 17 Apr, Nails was Night School, teaches Baptist school immersed 1857.
Philip, 15, Jan, nails was night school Baptist school immersed 1857.
Rowland, 13, Nov, nails Baptist School.
Trueann, 9, Oct, nails Baptist school.
Caroline, 7, July, Baptist school.
Alfred, 3, April

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:45 am
by Northern Lass
ah! True ann....excellent

do you fancy adding all that Kdw?

:grin:

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:09 pm
by kdw
All added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =156881417

Linell has Caroline Harris marrying John Oliver
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =357527139

Could this be the same Caroline Harris?

Can anyone find John Harris in 1871 and who he married?

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:09 pm
by linell
Hi Kaye, I have Caroline's father as Edward, she is a bit older, born about 1846? So probably not the same one. Caroline lived in Windmill Hill once Married to John Oliver, they were Methodists, help build that Providence Chapel at Colley Gate.
Linell.

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:17 pm
by linell
This is my one, 1861 Furlong Lane:-

EDWARD HARRIS Head Married 48 yrs
ANN HARRIS Wife Married 47 yrs
MARY A. HARRIS Daughter Unmarried 26 yrs
SOLOMON HARRIS Son Unmarried 18 yrs
CAROLINE HARRIS Daughter Unmarried 14 yrs
JAMES HARRIS Son 7 yrs
PRISCILLA HARRIS Daughter 5 yrs
MYRA HARRIS Daughter 3 yrs
EDWIN HARRIS Grandson 4 yrs

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:47 pm
by kdw
Hi Linell
Yet another connection. Ann Harris was Cox before she married, a sister to Edwin Cox 1810 children of John Cox and Sarah Jones.
Do you have other children for John and Sarah by any chance,
i have
Edwin 1810 married Ann Parish 25 Dec 1835 Oldswinford my 4X G Grandparents
Elizabeth 1812
Ann 1814 Married Edward Harris 28 June 1833 Dudley
John 1821
Sarah 1821

Edwin Harris 1857 was the son of Mary Ann Harris

Edward and Anns daughter Mirah married Daniel Roberts 1875 Halesowen.
They had the follwing kids
Emily Priscill aRoberts 1876
Amos Roberts 1877
Ann Maria Roberts 1880
Selina Roberts 1882
Edward Roberts 1887
Bertie Roberts 1889
Caroline Roberts 1891
Alfred Roberts 1894
Edith Roberts 1900

Do you have anymore info on the family?
Did Walter Oliver marry Louisa Cole?
Kaye

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:19 pm
by linell
Hi Kaye, I have Walter Oliver born 1873 Married to a Louisa ? Couldn't find their Marriage do you have it? There children were Winifred 1899 and Walter 1901, lived Windmill Hill.

I have Edwin Cox, not gone any further back with him as it is out of my connection range, have too many people already :!: Have you traced the Parish line back, think I put it on BCC, they connect to loads of families.

Thanks for the info on Edward and Ann Harris family. I've only entered Caroline into my tree as she is the only one that connects to me. We could link the whole of Cradley if we put our minds to it :!:

Best Wishes from Lin.

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:33 pm
by kdw
All added and joined up i think here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... nd=1881563

Need a look up for Mirahs marriage
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1875
ROBERTS * Daniel HARRIS Mirah Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/004/213
ROBERTS * Daniel HARRISS Mirah Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/004/213

Will add these after lookup

Check it please and yell if its not right.
Kaye

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:43 pm
by kdw
Hi Lin
Havent got the actual marriage cert for Walter and Louisa but did find this
Marriages Dec 1890
Cole Louisa Hereford 6a 1063
Oliver Walter Hereford 6a 1063
Kaye

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:24 am
by Northern Lass
Is this still running or are we waiting on look ups?

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:53 pm
by linell
kdw wrote:Hi Lin
Havent got the actual marriage cert for Walter and Louisa but did find this
Marriages Dec 1890
Cole Louisa Hereford 6a 1063
Oliver Walter Hereford 6a 1063
Kaye



Thanks for that Kaye, will make a note of it, think this can be archived NL, waiting on a Marriage Look Up for Mirah Harris and Daniel Roberts. Cheers from Linell.

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:10 pm
by Northern Lass
Kaye look up done on this and I am filling in Daniel Roberts
was there anything else to add

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:13 pm
by Northern Lass
If anyone can add this lot to Daniel Roberts notes and then the kids checking not on bcc already
that would be a huge help

1881 5 Furlong Lane Cradley

Daniel Roberts Head 25 Chain Maker
Myriah Roberts Wife 23
Emily P. Roberts Daur. 5
Amos Roberts Son 4
Ann M. Roberts Daur. 8 Mths
Edward Harris Father in law Widr.68 Horse nail Maker
All born Cradley

1891 51 Scholding Green Road Rowley Regis

Daniel Roberts Head 36 Chain Maker Born Kingswinford
Myra Roberts Wife 34 Born Cradley
Emily Roberts Daur. 15 Born Cradley
Amos Roberts Son 14 Born Kingswinford
Annie Roberts Daur. 11 Born Cradley
Selina Roberts Daur.9 Born Cradley
Edward Roberts Son 4 Born Cradley
Bertie Roberts Son 2 Born Cradley
Caroline Roberts Daur. 3/12 Born Rowley
Edward Harris Father in Law Widr.78 Born N K

Re: Roland /Rowland Harris

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:18 pm
by Northern Lass