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*UPDATE look up for LIN * --Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:12 am
by Northern Lass
They are the parents of Rebecca Selina Harper who marries William cox
we are running with Wm on another thread
JOSEPH HARPER
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH PLANT
Marriage: 25 JUL 1808 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Extracted marriage
Rebecca Selina marries in 1848
can we find her on census in 1841 with parents get an idea on when they married
See if we can link this Elizabeth into the Plants on BCC
Dennis you got any info on this one?
Re: Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:45 pm
by linell
Hi NL, think it is this Joseph:-
1851 East Side of Village Cradley
Joseph Harper HD W 64 Labourer in Iron Works, all born Cradley
Louisa DA U 25
Maria DA U 16
Joseph Grandson 2
Sure this is Louisa:-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=98754067
Re: Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:49 pm
by linell
From the Vicar's Notes:-
The Rev J.H. Thompson Vicar of Cradley listed Wm and family in his 1857 Notebook, he says that Wm attended Church Sometimes, that Lousia attended seldom, her sister was Rebecca Selina, now Mrs Cox. Louisa and Rebecca's father Joseph Harper rented a Church Pew.
Re: Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:50 pm
by Jimmy
1841. Cradley. Harper on image.
Jos Hasper 50. Labourer.
Elizebeth Hasper 50.
Louisa Hasper 15.
Rebaca Hasper 10.
John Hasper 10.
Ann Hasper 6.
Re: Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:58 pm
by Northern Lass
Hi Lin
can you add that marriage for look up pls and we can confirm
well spotted
can you add that census and the vicars notes on these harpers pls
so that is the witness louisa so that fits nicely
excellent!
Re: Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:02 pm
by linell
Will do NL........
Re: Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:07 pm
by Jimmy
ELIZABETH PLANT.
Christening, 04 AUG 1782. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Parents:
JOHN PLANT.
ELIZABETH.
ELIZABETH PLANT.
Christening, 27 JUN 1790. Halesowen, Worcester.
Parents:
JAMES PLANT.
ELIZABETH.
Re: Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:27 pm
by linell
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =153883202Have left Elizabeth as blank at the moment NL, not sure if you are happy to put in the Marriage yet?
Linell.
Re: Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:03 pm
by Northern Lass
linell wrote:http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&pid=38211&bpid=38211&bview=0&view=0&ccpid=38211&rand=153883202
Have left Elizabeth as blank at the moment NL, not sure if you are happy to put in the Marriage yet?
Linell.
thanks very much Lin that is a big help....
what do we think re that marriage .....very early isnt it?
need more kids for them from 1808
JOSEPH HARPER
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH PLANT
Marriage: 25 JUL 1808 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Extracted marriage
the kids we have on census b abt 1825...big gap
Re: Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:36 pm
by linell
Hi NL, yes that is a big gap, think we need to leave that and have a search for another likely Marriage. Am having to do it all again, trying to put them into my tree and link them all up

Great Cradley link there well done, later from Linell.
Re: Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:56 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:ELIZABETH PLANT.
Christening, 04 AUG 1782. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Parents:
JOHN PLANT.
ELIZABETH.
ELIZABETH PLANT.
Christening, 27 JUN 1790. Halesowen, Worcester.
Parents:
JAMES PLANT.
ELIZABETH.
if that marraige is them then one of these could be her but dunno?
so what do we want to do with this
archive?
Re: *Arc tbc* --Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:54 pm
by Jimmy
JOSEPH HARPER.
Christening, 27 AUG 1815. Cradley, Worcester.
ANN HARPER.
Christening, 06 OCT 1817. Cradley, Worcester.
LOUISA HARPER.
Christening. 11 DEC 1825. Cradley, Worcester.
REBECCA SELINA HARPER.
Christening, 18 MAY 1828. Cradley, Worcester.
ANN MARIA HARPER.
Christening, 26 APR 1835, Cradley, Worcester.
Parents to all,
JOSEPH HARPER.
ELIZABETH.
There are also others, were there 2 Joseph's and Elizabeths.
Re: *Arc tbc* --Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:50 am
by Northern Lass
Could have been Jimmy I don't know on this one and don't want to add Elizabeth Plant
unless we are sure
but the dob for her would fit one of those bapts
frustrating cos we could link back to the plants then
Now I could check the bapts and see occup for father and abode
as that would be on at that time
I will add those
can you list the others there were pls Jimmy
Re: *Arc tbc* --Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:52 am
by Northern Lass
Re: *Arc tbc* --Joseph Harper and wife Elizabeth
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:50 am
by Jimmy
Here are the others with parents Joseph and Elizabeth.
ELIZABETH HARPER.
Christening, 14 JUN 1812. Cradley, Worcester.
WILLIAM HARPER.
Christening, 12 JAN 1814. Cradley, Worcester.
JOSEPH HARPER.
Christening, 07 OCT 1821. Cradley, Worcester.
SAMUEL HARPER.
Christening. 23 AUG 1824. Cradley, Worcester.
Death, 27 AUG 1824.
JOHN HARPER.
Christening, 30 JAN 1831. Cradley, Worcester.
CAROLINE HARPER.
Christening, 25 JUN 1833. Cradley, Worcester.