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ARC - Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill &wife Mary
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:07 pm
by rodros
My Thomas Fielding married a Mary ? born about 1852 Tipton/Dudley area. I have birth certificates for 2 of his children stating his wife's name was Mary Marsh. However the only marriage I can find for Thomas Fielding was to a Mary Smart on 24th July 1870 at Dudley Parish Church. The witnesses were Joseph Chater and Sarah Chater.<br>
Would love to find out which is correct. Any help would be gratefully received.<br>
Thanks<br>
rodros

Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:58 pm
by peterd
this them ? whats the kids names and ages ?
1881 75 & 76 Broad Lanes Sedgley, Stafford
Thomas FIELDING 31 Brierly Hill, Stafford, Iron Worker
Mary FIELDING 29 Dudley Pt, Stafford,
Flora FIELDING 9 Tipton, Stafford, Scholar
William FIELDING 7 Tipton, Stafford, Scholar
James FIELDING 5 Tipton, Stafford, Scholar
Mary Ann FIELDING 4 Sedgley, Stafford,
William TURNER ((Lodger)) U 22 Sedgley, Stafford, Iron Worker
Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:01 pm
by peterd
rodros wrote:My Thomas Fielding married a Mary ? born about 1852 Tipton/Dudley area. I have birth certificates for 2 of his children stating his wife's name was Mary Marsh. However the only marriage I can find for Thomas Fielding was to a Mary Smart on 24th July 1870 at Dudley Parish Church. The witnesses were Joseph Chater and Sarah Chater.<br>
Would love to find out which is correct. Any help would be gratefully received.<br>
Thanks<br>
rodros

witnesses
CHATER Joseph FIELDING Sarah 1869 Coseley, Christ Church West Midlands Dudley Register Office 208/004/7
poss try trace thomas back and see if this thomas 1881 census has sister sarah ?
Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:11 pm
by peterd
1891 glass houghton, west riding
Sarah Teecs 39 (isiah) head tipton
Harriett Teecs 38 wife tipton
John Halford 7 nephew yorkshire
Thomas Fielding 41 visitors
Mary Fielding 39
William Fielding 17
Joseph Fielding 3
poss marriage
TEECE Isaiah DAVENPORT Harriet 1878 Dudley, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 202/008/238
Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:19 pm
by peterd
poss 1871 hill st, parklane ?
Thomas Fielding 21 Brierly Hill iron worker
Mary Fielding 19 tipton
Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:25 pm
by peterd
1901, 10 welbeck st, castleford
Thomas Fielding 51 miner
Mary Fielding 49
Florence Fielding 29
Mary A Fielding 24
Wm Fielding 27
James Fielding 25
Levi Fielding 16
Thomas Fielding 15
Arthur Fielding 5
Kate Fielding 8
Elsie Fielding 11
Joseph Fielding 14
all kid of thomas and mary
Wilson Fielding 28 Boarder
Bernard A Mercer 24 boarder
Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:29 pm
by peterd
could be that smart weding as he has a sister sarah
1861 chapel st, tipton
Henry Fielding 37 Birmingham. Miner
Matilda Fielding 36 Brierly Hill
Cordelia Fielding 15 bilston
Sarah Fielding 10 tipton
Thomas Fielding 12 Brierly Hill
Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:33 pm
by peterd
1851 dudley port, tipton
Henry Fielding 30 miner
Matilda Fielding 24
Cordelia Fielding 5
Thomas Fielding 3
Sarah Fielding 1
rest as in 1861
Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:38 pm
by peterd
1841 west brom poss henry
John Fielding 40 coal miner
Henry Fielding 15 coal miner
Kedilian Fielding 10
William Fielding 25 coal miner
Martha Fielding 25
Henry Fielding 5 Mo
John Powel 23
Mary Powel 25
William Mosely 15 coal miner
Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:41 pm
by peterd
Rodos
i would get these two look up to see who father is and who are witneses for joseph and sarah ?
CHATER Joseph FIELDING Sarah 1869 Coseley, Christ Church West Midlands Dudley Register Office 208/004/7
FIELDING Thomas SMART Mary 1870 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/028/6
Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:30 pm
by peterd
Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:04 pm
by rodros
Hi Pete,
confirm all the information you have given me is correct.
The Sarah Chator was Thomas Fielding's sister and I have all the census details of Joseph Chator and Sarah Fielding from 1851 to 1901 and even her death in 1913.
On the marriage certificate I have for Thomas Fielding and Mary Smart, Thomas's father was Henry ( Coal Miner ) and Mary Smart's father was William ( Coal Miner ).
Have found census info for a Mary Marsh and 1861 shows Mary's parents as William Marsh b.1831 Sedgley and Ann Watson b.1833 Dudley. Have followed all this through but still don't know if it is correct as am puzzled because of the marriage certificate stating Mary's name was Smart.
Could it be there is another marriage for a Thomas Fielding and Mary Marsh which I have been unable to find ?
Thanks
Rod

Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:46 pm
by grangers14
May be its just an error in Marsh? Could be transcribed wrongly?
What time span was there in the two births certs you got?
Jo

Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:28 pm
by rodros
HI jo,
have just sent you a pm
Thanks for having a look and your comments
Rod

Re: Thomas Fielding b. 1849 Brierley Hill and wife Mary ?
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:48 pm
by grangers14
Wonder if Smarts wrong then! I havent looked to see if theres a Mary Smart mind.
I thought the 1911 Census would clear up when they got married, doesn't!
1911 Census
71 Wilson Street, Castleford
Harry Hardington, boarder, single, 30, Professional Actor, Nottingham Parish of Upton
Victor Silvernie, boarder, single, 32, Professional Actor, Nottingham Parish of Upton
Victor Silvernie, boarder, single, 32, Professional Actor, Manchester
Mary Fielding, head, Married, 60, Dudley
JohnThomas, son, single, 24, Coal Miner Byeworker, Coseley
Kate, daur, single, 18, Castleford
Arthur, son, 15,Glass Hand Taker In, Castleford
Clarence, grandson, 2, Castleford
8 Wades Yard, Castleford,
William Fielding, head, 37, Miner Hewer, Tipton
Sarah Ellen, wife, married 16 years, 34, Sedgley
Florence, daur, 16, Potter, Castleford
Mary Ann, daur, 14, Domestic, Castleford
Isaac, son, 7, Castleford
Harold, son, 5, Castleford
Beatrice, daur, 3,
Horace, son, 10 months, Castleford
Thomas, father, 63, Miner, Bilstone