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Done a look up and the father for Josiah Grove is a Samuel Grove nailer
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =530317391

cant see Samuel on Bcc
there is a family with names Samuel and Josiah in but not the correct one.
could connect somehow

He is a widower Josiah on his marriage in 1862
so wonder who prev married to?

can we find out a mother for Josiah too and wife for father sAmuel

This is the only Josiah I can find in Halesowen 1851, Birmingham Street

Josiah Grove HD M 49 Nailer Halesowen
Sarah Wife 60 Nailer Halesowen
Joseph Westwood Lodger W 70 Labourer Halesowen

I suppose it could be this Josiah, being as Sarah was 60 in 1851, she could well have died leaving Josiah a Widow

Linell.

Yes, I think Josiah was Married to Sarah, she died and he married Leonora, then she died and he married Mary.
there are Josiah Groves of the right age sequentially in the census living at Birmingham St., Halesowen. Married first to Sarah, then Mary. With a death for Leonora between their marriage and the next census:

Free BMD death:
Leonora Grove abt 1811 1870 Stourbridge Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire

There are at least 2 possible deaths for a Sarah Grove in 1861.

This sounds good can we have some marriage dates /death/ census etc and can someone add this to BCC pls

1861 Census B'ham Street Halesowen
Josiah Grove 58 (says he was 56 a year later when he Married Leonora.)
Sarah Wife 69

There's a death for Sarah Grove DEC Qtr 1861 Stourbridge Registration District.

Can anyone find Josiah in 1841 please?

Linell.

Found this Marriage:-
Josiah Grove and Sarah Holloway 17.4.1825 St Thomas Dudley.

I would think that is correct, Holloway was a big Halesowen name.

Will post a look up for it, see if they were bach and spinster.

Linell.

1841
At Birmingham St., Halesowen
Josiah Grove 45 Nailer
Sarah Grove 50
Both born in county

Interesting ... Next door are William & Hannah HOLLIES.
Previous page are a bunch of HOLLOWAYS.

So not sure I am following this
Josiah marries Sarah
then Leonora
then Mary?

when did he marry Mary?
and which census are they on?

Not got as far as Mary yet NL Will get there eventually

Linell.

linell wrote:Not got as far as Mary yet NL Will get there eventually

Linell.

Okedoke just been nosey


will leave you to add link when ya done!
ta

Thanks for the 1841 details Di. Josiah's dob seems all over the place from 1796 - 1806. Yes the Holloways in B'ham Street must be connected to Sarah. The Hollies were Butchers. Also noticed a Lucy Grove aged 20 in B'ham Street

Can't find Josiah in 1871 Could someone else see if they can find him please? Would be a Widower on his own.

1881 Census B'ham Street Halesowen (he didn't move far)
Josiah Grove 83 Nailer born Halesowen
Mary Wife 53 Charwoman Wolverhampton

Sorry couldn't resist that

Ok can't find a Marriage for Josiah and Mary. Will enter what we have onto BCC.

Linell.

Charwoman
oh no...cleaning....



great stuff Linell thank you]

Hi NL, no don't mention cleaning, not till tomorrow morning at any rate Here is the link:- http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =323627412

Completed for now, just waiting on look ups.

One query, your Marriage details for Josiah and Leonora, you have her father down as John Hobbis Should be Job

Will have a look at the Halesowen PR's for parents of Josiah.

Best Wishes from Linell.

Hi Linell

yeah that was what was down on the marriage cert so we will leave that in the notes
but leave it as Job on the ancestor template