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*UPDATE look up for KDW done! *--Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:40 pm
by kdw
Really need some help
On BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=27923158
Marriage details
29 March 1869 Holy Trinity Amblecote
Absalom Cox 23 Bachelor Spiker Living T Delph Father Thomas Cox Nailer
Hannah Hartleton 22 Spinster living Amblecote Father Richard Hartleton Nailer
Wit: William Worton and Emma Worton
Absalom Hannah and Emma all signed with X

Can anyone find Hannah pre marriage ?

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:28 pm
by peterd
could hartleton be hartland ?

1881 36 High Town Gradley, Worcester

Andrew HARTLAND 43 Cradley, Worcester, Forge Lab
Mary A. HARTLAND 35 Cradley, Worcester,
Joseph HARTLAND 3 Cradley, Worcester,
Keziah HARTLAND 3 m Cradley, Worcester,
Alfred WESTWOOD St Son 14 Cradley, Worcester, Chain Maker
Keziah COX Mother In Law W 65 Cradley, Worcester, Nailer Unem



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1881 50 High Town Gradley, Worcester



Absalom COX 35 Cradley, Worcester, Anchor Maker
Hannah COX 29 Cradley, Worcester, Chain Maker
Henry COX 10 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar
Hannah COX 7 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar
Emma COX 4 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar
Sarah COX 2 Cradley, Worcester,
Joseph COX 9 m Cradley, Worcester,

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:32 pm
by peterd
poss marriage

WESTWOOD Mary A HADLAM Andrew 1876 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/033/407

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:36 pm
by peterd
first marriage

COX Mary A WESTWOOD Samuel 1865 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/024/14

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:42 pm
by kdw
Hi
The marriage deffinately said HARTLETON

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:11 pm
by grangers14
I couldn't see them on census or any BMD's apart from the marriage. I looked in a Mirror to the Flock, vicars notes and this may be them along with the witnesses to the marriage.
1857, 410.
Bloomers Row, Cradley
William Worton(gone to 413) Emma Worton, 1 Joseph.

Richard Hartleton, Nailor, baptists sometimes. Eliza, baptist sometimes no church. 8 7 Eliza Hannah, 21, Nails, chapel, Andrew, 19, nails, no church, unbaptised. Maria, 17, nails, school, unbaptised, John, 12, chains, New Connection school, unbaptised, baptised by JHT. Ann, 10, April, nurse, New Connexion, school, unbaptised, Caroline, 7, streets, New Connexion, school, unbaptised. Thomas, 3, New Connexion, school, unbaptised. All children unbaptised except ElizahHannah. Mother was immersed, now no church.

Philemon Boxley, chains, son of 55B, no church. Hannah, daughter of 410, no church.

Looking at the 1861 census looks like they are down as Harland in Hightown.
Jo :)

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:24 pm
by grangers14
1863 from the A mirror to the flock, vicars notes.
353
High Town - Bloomers Row
Richard Hartleton, Baptist, seldom. Eliza, Baptist, seldom. 4 John, 19, Dec,chain,. Ann, 16, Apr, Baptists, school, unbaptised. Caroline, 13, May, nail, baptist, school. Thomas, 9, July, baptist, school, national school.

Joseph Cooper, Corngreaves, Maria, daughter of 353, 1 David, 1, Dec.


Jo :)

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:49 pm
by peterd
grangers14 wrote:I couldn't see them on census or any BMD's apart from the marriage. I looked in a Mirror to the Flock, vicars notes and this may be them along with the witnesses to the marriage.
1857, 410.
Bloomers Row, Cradley
William Worton(gone to 413) Emma Worton, 1 Joseph.

Richard Hartleton, Nailor, baptists sometimes. Eliza, baptist sometimes no church. 8 7 Eliza Hannah, 21, Nails, chapel, Andrew, 19, nails, no church, unbaptised. Maria, 17, nails, school, unbaptised, John, 12, chains, New Connection school, unbaptised, baptised by JHT. Ann, 10, April, nurse, New Connexion, school, unbaptised, Caroline, 7, streets, New Connexion, school, unbaptised. Thomas, 3, New Connexion, school, unbaptised. All children unbaptised except ElizahHannah. Mother was immersed, now no church.

Philemon Boxley, chains, son of 55B, no church. Hannah, daughter of 410, no church.

Looking at the 1861 census looks like they are down as Harland in Hightown.
Jo :)



so andrew and ann/hannah could be related ?

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:34 pm
by kdw
Thanks for that it has to be them.
I think the Emma Worton could be Absaloms sister found a marriage for a William Worton and Emma Cox
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1855
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WORTON William COX Emma Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/015/71

This could be Richard and Family
1851 High Town Cradley
Richard Hartland Head 44 Wigher in Nail Warehouse
Eliza Hartland Wife 38 Nailer
Hannah Hartland Daur. 15 Nailer
Andrew Hartland Son 12 Striker to Chain Maker
Maria Hartland Daur. 10 Nurse Girl at Home
John Hartland Son 7 Scholar
Ann Hartland Daur. 4
Caroline Hartland Daur. 10 Mo
All born Cradley

1861 High Town Cradley
Richard Harland Head 54 Nailer
Eliza Harland Wife 48 Nailer
Andrew Harland Daur. 22 Puddler in iron works
Maria Harland Daur. 20 Nailer
John Harland Son 17 Labourer in Iron works
Ann Harland Daur. 14 Nailer
Caroline Harland Daur.10
Thomas Harland Son 6 Scholar
Joseph Coley Boarder 20 Puddler
All born Cradley

1871 High Town Cradley
Richard Hartland Head 64 Nail Maker
Eliza Hartland Wife 58 Nail Maker
Caroline Hartland Daur. 20 Nail Maker
Thomas Hartland Son 16 Chain Maker
All born Cradley

Will post marriages for lookups
COX Mary A WESTWOOD Samuel 1865 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/024/14
WESTWOOD Mary A HADLAM Andrew 1876 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/033/407

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:13 am
by Northern Lass
still running Kaye?
waiting for look ups?
wot we doing leaving here, moving?

any that can be connected ....get em linked!
we are getting loads of ones slotting into place now it is brill!

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:14 pm
by Northern Lass
Unless otherwise advised this will be moved to arch section within 24 hrs

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:51 pm
by kdw
Have added to Bcc as Hartleton.
Going by Vicars notes and census ages have ammended Hannah to Ann.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =226867016

marriages to be checked, posted in lookups.

RICHARD HARTLAND Pedigree
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZA HOMER Family
Marriage: 17 AUG 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1862
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HARTLAND Maria COOPER Joseph Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/020/360
Please archive this till lookups done.
Thanks
Kaye

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:16 pm
by Northern Lass
I have done the look up for Kdw on this

Kaye are William Worton / Whorton
and his father Joseph Worton/ Whorton
already on BCC cant see em

will add them

need dob for William Worton too

Re: Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:30 pm
by Northern Lass

Re: *UPDATE look up for KDW done! *--Hannah Hartleton abt 1847

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:56 pm
by Northern Lass
I think this is the sister of Mary Ann Cox
an Elizabeth

Charles Hodgetts is the same witness at both girls marriage
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =550615161

So at the moment we have them as separate
need to join em if they are sisters