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my gran was gertrude hill nee taylor and she used to tell me the story of a baby that was born on board on a man o war in the bay of biscay and there was a newspaper report about with a photo of her in the county express she was a old lady in a high backed chair with a croched hat on her head which could have been a mop cap that was all i knew about this baby over the last 12yrs i have found out alot more her name was maria and she was grans mom minnie jukes greatgrand mother maria was born c1777 on board hms worcester she was christened on board the ship her god father was lieutenant horatio nelson when ichecked i found nelson was on board the ship at the time and in the spring of 1777 he took his lieutenant exams so that checked out i looked up the worcester and found she was a 64 gun third rate ship and she was broken up in 1814 by september 1777 nelson is on another ship. old maria has i call her married a william freeman
1841 cenus maria and william are living in a cottage on the bromyard downs with daughter maryann wall or could be granddaughter not sure which.1848 william dies in bromyard old maria comes to stourbridge to be near maryann and her husband wilkinson hatton .1851 cencus old marie is living in windmill street which is now church streetwith a lady named carpenter who was awittness at maryanns wedding she aged 71and acharlady and is from bromyard.1861 cencus old maria is living off brettle lane has a lodger is down has a nurse age 81 and coming from bristol.1871 cencus.she is living at chawn hill maryann has died in 1865 and
willkinson hatton and his daughter mary a are living with her she is on parish relief.1881 cenus old maria is
living at lower swinford january 1882 old maria dies and is buried in oldswinford churchyard.
if anyone looking thro the the old newspapers in stourbridge libary and
they come across the report would they let me
knew we have gone up to 1914 ourselfs without much luck
regards sueh

Hi sueh
getting a bit confused with this...are you the Sue that joined before?
We looked at Gertrude Taylor here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =702043457

So her mother is Minnie Jukes
and Maria is Minnies Grandma?
what are the names Sue

so we can have a look and fill in the tree too
can you give us the details
names dates marriages etc

Northern Lass wrote:Hi sueh
getting a bit confused with this...are you the Sue that joined before?
We looked at Gertrude Taylor here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =702043457

So her mother is Minnie Jukes
and Maria is Minnies Grandma?
what are the names Sue

so we can have a look and fill in the tree too
can you give us the details
names dates marriages

hi northern lass
i only joined yesterday you are right grans mom being minnie jukes maria freeman is minnie jukes grt grandmother
what dates do you.what? have never been able to find maria and william freemans marridge
sueh

jane 2009 was the one posting about nelson here it is in the archieves


viewtopic.php?f=31&t=2541

here the worcester link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Worcester_(1769)

by the 10th of april 1777 nelson was serving on the lowstoft

http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/info_sh ... nelson.htm


contact these below and ask them do they have anything for worcester jan to april 1777 might be something in there ?

http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/research_manuscript.htm

contact the national archive they might have the captian log book ?


http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.go ... _Worcester

peterd wrote:jane 2009 was the one posting about nelson here it is in the archieves


viewtopic.php?f=31&t=2541

So Jane 2009 and Sueh have same gran
do you know each other ladies?

sueh wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:Hi sueh
getting a bit confused with this...are you the Sue that joined before?
We looked at Gertrude Taylor here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =702043457

So her mother is Minnie Jukes
and Maria is Minnies Grandma?
what are the names Sue

so we can have a look and fill in the tree too
can you give us the details
names dates marriages

hi northern lass
i only joined yesterday you are right grans mom being minnie jukes maria freeman is minnie jukes grt grandmother
what dates do you.what? have never been able to find maria and william freemans marridge
sueh

what is Marias maiden name
is this the one b 1777 ?

from Minnie jukes working back is she on the maternal side or paternal side?
and what are the names going back
all we have is this
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

peterd wrote:by the 10th of april 1777 nelson was serving on the lowstoft

http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/info_sh ... nelson.htm


contact these below and ask them do they have anything for worcester jan to april 1777 might be something in there ?

http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/research_manuscript.htm

thank i have found the log book for the worcester
iwas told nelson was told nelson on board until sept 1777

Northern Lass wrote:

sueh wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:Hi sueh
getting a bit confused with this...are you the Sue that joined before?
We looked at Gertrude Taylor here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =702043457

So her mother is Minnie Jukes
and Maria is Minnies Grandma?
what are the names Sue

so we can have a look and fill in the tree too
can you give us the details
names dates marriages

hi northern lass
i only joined yesterday you are right grans mom being minnie jukes maria freeman is minnie jukes grt grandmother
what dates do you.what? have never been able to find maria and william freemans marridge
sueh

what is Marias maiden name
is this the one b 1777 ?

from Minnie jukes working back is she on the maternal side or paternal side?
and what are the names going back
all we have is this
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

minnie jukes is the female line

Northern Lass wrote:

peterd wrote:jane 2009 was the one posting about nelson here it is in the archieves


viewtopic.php?f=31&t=2541

So Jane 2009 and Sueh have same gran
do you know each other ladies?

yes i think jane is my cousins daughter jane was atot the last time i saw her

Northern Lass wrote:Hi sueh
getting a bit confused with this...are you the Sue that joined before?
We looked at Gertrude Taylor here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =702043457

So her mother is Minnie Jukes
and Maria is Minnies Grandma?
what are the names Sue

so we can have a look and fill in the tree too
can you give us the details
names dates marriages etc

minnie jukes mother elizabeth jukes who married/livedtogether william whitehouse jukes
never found a marriage for those two elizabethis the daughter of wilkinson hatton /maryann wall
they married 1844 at old swinford dates are wrong bbc they could not have on ther for long
has i check for family often this the first site i have with them on

Hi Sue

how do you know that that Elizabeth that married William Whitehouse Jukes
is the dau of Wilkinson Hatton and Mary Wall?
if you havent got the marriage you cant be sure of the father surely unless clues on census

and do you mean bcc not bbc....
and if so what do you mean
sorry don't understand as we dont have the Wilkinson info on we only have the Jukes on ie Minnies father



1844 is the correct date for a marriage between Wilkinson hatton and mary ann wall
but we dont have that on BCC yet as we need more proof on this Eliz Hatton and her parents

The only thing i can see is this on IGI
Elizabeth Hatton
Christening: 21 JUN 1847 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: Wilkinson Hatton Family
Mother: Mary Ann Wall

JOHN HATTON
Christening: 03 JUN 1852 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: WILKINSON HATTON Family
Mother: MARY ANNE

1851 Talbot Back Lane Stourbridge
Wilkinson Halton Head 27 Labourer Born Stourbridge
Mary Ann Halton Wife 27 Born Lenton Herefordshire
Thomas Halton Son 6 Born Stourbridge
Elizabeth Halton Daur. 3 Born Stourbridge
Mary Renolds Visitor 21 Born Droitwich

1861 Hagley Road Harwoods? Yard Stourbridge
Wilkisson Hatton Head 36 Shiller?for Spade Maker Born Stourbridge
Mary A Hatton Wife 36 TailoressBorn Bromsgrove Herford
Thomas Hatton Son 16 Spade Finisher Born Stourbridge
Mary Hatton Daur.7 Scholar Born Stourbridge
Elizabeth Hatton Mother Widow 67 Born Clent
William Hatton Brother 43 Labourer at Iron Works Born Stourbridge

So where is John did he die or is he elsewhere on census?