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We have a Samuel Johnson married to an Eliza Guest- father is a Samuel

and then we have a Samuel Johnson father Daniel


Can we find both Samuels and Elizas on the 1861

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=46267963

this is the Samuel with father Daniel
I think he must be with an Eliza on 1861 and those are all his kids
but he didnt marry Eliza Guest
the one that married Eliza Guest has father Samuel

Rite either it is an error on whoever filled in the marriage and should say Daniel and not Samuel as father or we have
2 Elizas marrying 2 Samuel Johnsons.

On the 1861 Samuel and Eliza are at Garratts lane with son George
then
On the 1871 Samuel and Eliza are at Elbow st with all the other kids here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =513598597
and next door is Samuels father Daniel

so I can get the birth certif or Rosannah Guest or one of them middle ones see if mother is Eliza Guest
if it is then I know the marriage entry is incorrect



can anyone find a Samuel with a Samuel as a father?

The only one I can see for a marriage is this one
1854
JOHNSON Samuel ALLEN Elizabeth West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/6/389

but this doesnt make sense.
on the 61/71 I think that is our Samuel with Eliza
but he is next door to Daniel Johnson
and Samuels kids are a Daniel and Rosannah

so it cant be Eliza Guest as on that marriage Samuels father is a Samuel

this is driving me crazy

do I need a birth certif for
1862
JOHNSON Rosannah Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/34/132

see if mother is an Eliza Guest
agggghhhh!!

1861 Census
Garratts Lane, Rolwey Regis
Samuel Johnson, head, 27, Chain Maker
Eliza, wife, 26, Dudley
George, son, 1,
All others born Rowley Regis

1881 Census
Newtwon Street, Rowley regis
Samuel Johnson, head, 46,
Eliza, wife, 46,
Rosehannah, daur, 18,
Ann R, daur, 16,
Daniel, son, 13,
George, son, Mar, 21,
John h, son, orphan, 10,
Emily, daur, 10,
Samuel, son, 8,
Martha, daur, 5,
Susan, daur, 2
All born Rowley Regis

1891Census
Claremont Street, Rowley Regis
Samuel Johnson, head, 57, Chain maker
Eliza, wife, 56, Dudley
Daniel, son, 23, Chain Maker,
Samuel, son, 18, Chain Maker
Jason, son, 12,
John Hill, nephew, 20, Chain Maker, Dudley
All others born Rowley Regis.

1901 Census
Reddall Hill Road, Rowley Regis
Samuel Johnson, head, 67, Chain maker
Eliza, wife, 66, Dudley
Jason, son, 22, Coal Miner
Martha, daur, 25,
All others born Rowley Regis

Thats them and on the 1871 next door is Daniel Johnson and wife Rosannah

missed 1871
1871 Census
Elbow Street, Rowley regis
Samuel Johnson, head, 37, Chain Maker
Eliza, wife, 36,
George, Son, 11
Rosehannah, daur, 8,
Ann R, daur, 6,
Daniel, son, 3,
Emily, daur, 8 months,
John Hill, boarder, 10 months, Dudley
All others born Rowley Regis

Hi Jo
can you add all that census info if you get a min....only if you can

I am ordering that birth cert for Rosannnah
need to see if her mother is Eliza Guest
if it is
the marriage entry is incorrect it says Samuels father is Samuel

Births Jun 1862
JOHNSON Rosannah Dudley 6c 22

archived pending cert

Rite I have just received the Birth certif for Rosannah Johnson b 1862
The father is Samuel Johnson
and guess what
the mother is Eliza Guest!

so that marriage entry must be incorrect!
or Daniel adopted him

Here is the marriage...I am unless I find anything different marking it as an error
I see plenty of those in the look ups I do!

Marriage info By jan
30 Oct 1855 St Edmunds Dudley
Samuel Johnson- full- bach- chainmaker- Dudley- Samuel Johnson- chainmaker
Eliza Guest- minor- spinster- Dudley- Joseph Guest- nailmaker
Banns
Samuel signed/ X Eliza
Wit- Edward Hackett/ Mary Ann Guest

and here is the link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =624557043