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ok linell you had your holiday now time to sort this out

here a book on the groves family of halesowen first published 1912

http://www.archive.org/stream/grovefami ... 5/mode/2up


starts with john grove 1538

john died between 3 aug 1538 and 25 feb 1540
estimated born c1480


kids

william
jone married a smith
ann married a baker
margery married ?

on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =929649588

Hi Peter, have just about recovered from my holiday thanks Couldn't open your archive link. Here's another one from the Bugle;- http://www.blackcountrybugle.co.uk/blac ... ?id=243485
I grew up living near the Button Factory and remember it well. Sorry can't work upwards, will have to start with the founder James Grove in 1861 and work backwords, here is James and his family in 1861, will find some more later.

Hagley Road Hasbury Halesowen 1861
James Grove Head 37
Ann Elizabeth Wife 35
Harriett A DA 14
Alice J DA 12
George F Son 11
William H Son 7
Arthur J Son 5
Rose E DA 3

Linell.

1851 Spring House Hagley Road Hasbury Halesowen
James Grove HD 20 Engine Turner and Die Sinker, all born Halesowen
Ann Elizabeth Wife 25
Harriett Ann DA 4
Alice Jane DA 2

Linell

James Grove Born 13.3.1824 Halesowen. Father Edward Grove born Halesowen about 1798.
James Baptised 8.9.1824 Halesowen
Married Ann Elizabeth Rose 9.12.1845 Halesowen
James Died 4.12.1886 Halesowen

Ann Elizabeth born 1827 Died 25.3.1904 Halesowen

Here they are on BCC

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =978842627

Lin if you get a min and can add those census that would be great

so we need to connect from 1824 back to Petes?:shock:

Ok will do NL............goodness knows how we connect up back to John born in the reign of Henry 8th Linell.

linell wrote:Ok will do NL............goodness knows how we connect up back to John born in the reign of Henry 8th Linell.

hmmm got a point there
think we need to be very very sure when we enter anything if going back that far and check it out as much as poss
or
borrow that time machine

Yes definitely need that Time Machine, can't even find his mother or parents Marriage? Can someone find James Grove and family in 1871 please, maybe missing some children, my book mentions an Ernest Henry? Not found him yet. All entered up so far:- http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =714516126

Linell.

An Ancestry tree has:
James Grove
BIRTH: 13 Mar 1824 - Halesowen, Worcestershire, England
MARRIAGE: 09 Dec 1845 (9 Dec 1845) - Halesowen, Worcestershire, England
DEATH: 04 Dec 1886 (4 Dec 1886) - Halesowen, Worcestershire, England
PARENTS: Edward Grove, Pheobe Silk
SPOUSE: Ann Elizabeth Rose

Children:
Harriet Ann GROVE 1846 - 1876
Alice Jane GROVE 1849 -
George Frederick GROVE 1850 -
William Henry GROVE 1853 -
Thomas GROVE 1854 - 1854
Arthur James GROVE 1856 - 1920
Rose Elizabeth GROVE 1858 - 1864
Walter GROVE 1861 -
Juliet Phoebe GROVE 1864 -
Alfred Edward GROVE 1869 -
Ernest Harry GROVE

1871
At Bloomfield Cottage, Hawn
James Grove Head 44 Button Maker employing 90 work people b. Worcs., Halesowen
Ann E Grove Wife 42 b. Worcs., Halesowen
Harriett A Grove Daur 24 b. Warwickshire, Birmingham
Alice J Grove Daur 22 b. Worcs., Halesowen
George F Grove Son 20 Clerk b. Worcs., Halesowen
William H Grove Son 17 Merchant's Apprentice b. Worcs., Halesowen
Arthur J Grove Son 15 Clerk b. Worcs., Halesowen
Walter Grove Son 10 Scholar b. Worcs., Halesowen
Juliet P Grove Daur 6 Scholar b. Worcs., Halesowen
Alfred E Grove Son 2 b. Worcs., Halesowen

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Phoebe Grove
Name: Phoebe Grove
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 75
District: Stourbridge
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire

1841
At High St., Hales Owen, Shropshire
Edward Grove 38 Bricklayer Y
Phebe Grove 48 Y
Priscilla Grove 12 Y
Matilda Grove 8 Y
George Grove 6 Y

Interesting ... just 2 entries earlier there is a Joseph Harris jnr who is a button maker.

dianel wrote:1841
At High St., Hales Owen, Shropshire
Edward Grove 38 Bricklayer Y
Phebe Grove 48 Y
Priscilla Grove 12 Y
Matilda Grove 8 Y
George Grove 6 Y

Interesting ... just 2 entries earlier there is a Joseph Harris jnr who is a button maker.

Thanks Di, that's brilliant, yes the Harris family, owned a Button Factory, James Grove did his apprentership there, he then went onto to have his own business. I am very interested in Phoebe Silk as I have a Mary Silk, 7x Gt Granny, she was born about 1720 though, but the Silks were few and far on the ground, so could be a connection there! Cheers Di from Linell.

try it this way that links works for me ?


go to

http://www.archive.org/index.php

type in search box grove halesowen

click on to open it up, then click on read on line in view the book on the top left hand side


if you type in halesowen on its own you can view the 1559 - 1643 parish register as well this should help with researching this

I'm just getting this message Pete:-

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Try a different page address, at top Will try again later, many thanks from Linell.