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Looking for more info on Thomas's parents .....here

Poss-
1851: Eagle Lane, Tipton, Staffs
John Grove 38 Head Railway Porter b.Chaddersley Corbett, Worc
Elizabeth Grove 39 Wife b.Sedgley, Staffs
Samuel Hall 18 Son In Law? U Puddler in Iron Works b.Sedgley
Eliza Hall 15 Dau In Law? b.West Bromwich
William Hall 12 Son In Law? Lab In Iron Works b.West Bromwich
Thomas Grove 7 Son b.Tipton
John Grove 4 Son b.Tipton
Joseph Grove 2 Son b.Tipton

1861: Eagle Lane, Tipton, Staffs
John Grove 49 Head Labourer b.Chaddersley, Worc
Elizabeth Grove 50 Wife
Thomas Grove 17 Son U Puddler b.Tipton
John Grove 14 Son
Joseph Grove 12 Son
Hannah Grove 8 Dau b.Tipton
Emmala Grove 5 Dau b.Tipton

1871: 4 Eagle Street, Tipton, Staffs
Elizabeth Grove 60 Head Wid
Joseph Grove 22 Son U Puddler
Emily Grove 15 Dau

could that hall be a wall and are his step children

Marriages Sep 1848

Downes Mary Ann Wolverhampton 17 353
Grove John Wolverhampton 17 353
HALL Elizabeth Wolverhampton 17 353
Pinner William Wolverhampton 17 353
Pritchard Samuel Wolverhampton 17 353
ROWLEY Maria Wolverhampton 17 353
Wall Elizabeth Wolverhampton 17 353
Wilson Thomas Wolverhampton 17 353
WRIGHT Elizabeth Ann Wolverhampton 17 353

1871: 1 Hse/1Crt Eagle Street, Tipton, Staffs
Thos Groves 37 Head M Puddler b.Grt Bridge, Staffs
Sarah J S Groves 25 Wife b.Hollyhall, Worc

peterd wrote:could that hall be a wall and are his step children

Marriages Sep 1848

Downes Mary Ann Wolverhampton 17 353
Grove John Wolverhampton 17 353
HALL Elizabeth Wolverhampton 17 353
Pinner William Wolverhampton 17 353
Pritchard Samuel Wolverhampton 17 353
ROWLEY Maria Wolverhampton 17 353
Wall Elizabeth Wolverhampton 17 353
Wilson Thomas Wolverhampton 17 353
WRIGHT Elizabeth Ann Wolverhampton 17 353

or even this one Pete?

mallosa wrote:1851: Eagle Lane, Tipton, Staffs
John Grove 38 Head Railway Porter b.Chaddersley Corbett, Worc
Elizabeth Grove 39 Wife b.Sedgley, Staffs
Samuel Hall 18 Son In Law? U Puddler in Iron Works b.Sedgley
Eliza Hall 15 Dau In Law? b.West Bromwich
William Hall 12 Son In Law? Lab In Iron Works b.West Bromwich
Thomas Grove 7 Son b.Tipton
John Grove 4 Son b.Tipton
Joseph Grove 2 Son b.Tipton

1841: Great Bridge, Tipton, Staffs
Elizabeth Hall 30 (y)
Samuel Hall 8 (y)
Eliza Hall 6 (y)
William Hall 3 (y)

mallosa wrote:

peterd wrote:could that hall be a wall and are his step children

Marriages Sep 1848

Downes Mary Ann Wolverhampton 17 353
Grove John Wolverhampton 17 353
HALL Elizabeth Wolverhampton 17 353
Pinner William Wolverhampton 17 353
Pritchard Samuel Wolverhampton 17 353
ROWLEY Maria Wolverhampton 17 353
Wall Elizabeth Wolverhampton 17 353
Wilson Thomas Wolverhampton 17 353
WRIGHT Elizabeth Ann Wolverhampton 17 353

or even this one Pete?

in front of your eyes or what

ages are out

mallosa wrote:1871: 1 Hse/1Crt Eagle Street, Tipton, Staffs
Thos Groves 37 Head M Puddler b.Grt Bridge, Staffs
Sarah J S Groves 25 Wife b.Hollyhall, Worc

1881: 12 Margaret Street, Ince In Makerfield, Lancashire
Thomas Groves 36 Head Iron Puddler of Forge b.Tipton, Staffs
Sarah Jane Groves 35 Wife b.Dudley, Worc

There are quite a few Black Country neighbours livingclose by... Edwards, Jones, Kendrick, Davis, Parker and Parton

1891: 113 Withington Lane, Aspul, Lancashire
Thomas Groves 47 Head Puddler Iron Worker
Sarah J Groves 45 Wife
Joseph Price 42 Boarder M Shingler b.Brierley Hill
James Gaskell 20 Boarder S Coal Miner Drawer b.Wigan Lancs

Deaths Mar 1901
Grove Sarah Jane 55 Wigan 8c 11

Looks like Thomas is living with his brother?
1901: 100 Warrington Road, Ince In Makerfield, Lancs
John Grove 54 Head Grocer b.Tipton.............................................Poss Marriage Dec 1867: GROVE John FARMER Matilda West Bromwich, All Saints 22/12/14
Matilda Grove 54 Wife b.Tipton
Matilda Grove 18 Dau
Elizabeth Grove 18 Dau
William Hy Grove 17 Son
Elijah Grove 13 Son
Eliza Grove 11 Sau
Samuel Grove 9 Son
Thomas Grove 56 Boarder S? Living on own means b.Tipton, Staffs
others born Ince, Lanc


All added to Connections here

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I'll check to see if this Walter and Sarah are on Connections, if not I'll add them

Not sure if this is above Sarah but posting anyway, don't want to lose it........

1901: 1 Albert Terrace, All Saints, Birmingham, Warks
William Mould 24 Head Brickmakers Carter
Alice Mould 27 Wife
William Mould 2 Son
Henry Mould 2 months Son
Thomas W Groves 4 Visitor
Sarah Groves 54 Visitor (no marital status given) b.Dudley, Worc
others born Birmingham

No it isn't the same Sarah cos here she is in 1891......

1891: 3 Chaffer Bldgs, Winson Grn, All Saints, Birmingham
Weller (looks like Walter on image) Groves 54 Head Gen Lab b.Worcester
Sarah Groves 43 Wife b.Dudley, Worc
Thomas Berkson (Beekson?) 20 Step Son S Brassworker b.Birmingham
Alice Groves 13 Dau b.Birmingham
Hannah Groves 12 Dau b.Birmingham

1881: 3h Bk of 60 Princip St, Birmingham
Walter Groves 42 Head Lab ? W.. b.Worcester
Sarah Groves 33 Wife
Thomas B. Groves 10 Son
Alice Groves 3 Dau
Hannah Groves 2 Dau

Marriages Jun 1876
Beeteson Sarah Birmingham 6d 54 [/b]
Buckingham Mary Ann Birmingham 6d 54
Groves Walter Birmingham 6d 54
Hayter Alice Ellen Southam 6d 54 ...........................anything to do with you NL?
Wood William Birmingham 6d 54

added Census details to Connections, will add children tomorrow ....... here

mallosa wrote:I'll check to see if this Walter and Sarah are on Connections, if not I'll add them

1901: 1 Albert Terrace, All Saints, Birmingham, Warks
William Mould 24 Head Brickmakers Carter
Alice Mould 27 Wife
William Mould 2 Son
Henry Mould 2 months Son
Thomas W Groves 4 Visitor
Sarah Groves 54 Visitor (no marital status given) b.Dudley, Worc
others born Birmingham

Marriages Jun 1897
Burrows Thomas Birmingham 6d 104
Dyhouse Mary Birmingham 6d 104
Groves Alice Birmingham 6d 104
Mould William Birmingham 6d 104

all on now, and can be archived pending marriage look up

have done the look up on this will post link in a min

but need the first marriage of Johns wife Elizabeth Hall

she marries a Hall prob around 1830's

1851: Eagle Lane, Tipton, Staffs
John Grove 38 Head Railway Porter b.Chaddersley Corbett, Worc
Elizabeth Grove 39 Wife b.Sedgley, Staffs
Samuel Hall 18 Son In Law? U Puddler in Iron Works b.Sedgley
Eliza Hall 15 Dau In Law? b.West Bromwich
William Hall 12 Son In Law? Lab In Iron Works b.West Bromwich
Thomas Grove 7 Son b.Tipton
John Grove 4 Son b.Tipton
Joseph Grove 2 Son b.Tipton

Kids

1841: Great Bridge, Tipton, Staffs
Elizabeth Hall 30 (y)
Samuel Hall 8 (y)
Eliza Hall 6 (y)
William Hall 3 (y)

SAMUEL HALL
Christening: 29 NOV 1832 Coseley In Sedgley, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: JOHN HALL
Mother: ELIZABETH Extracted

ELIZA HALL
Christening: 16 AUG 1835 Coseley In Sedgley, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: JOHN HALL
Mother: ELIZABETH
Extracted

poss marriages

JOHN HALL
ELIZABETH PARKES
Marriage: 02 NOV 1830 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

or

JOHN HALL
ELIZABETH SKALE
Marriage: 17 APR 1831 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

3 Sep 1848 St.Peters

John Grove full b Stock taker Bilston Street Thomas Grove Blacksmith
&
Elizabeth Hall full w Bilston Street Samuel Schale Deceased
B
T.Holding & J.Biddulph Jr.
Robert C.Douglas

so she is an Elizabeth Schale