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*UPDATE cert arrived!*--Eliza Jordan b abt 1850

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:19 am
by Northern Lass
Have done a look up and father is not a Frederick Jordan but a George Jordan - dead- Shoemaker
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =364180169

but this is odd.....

that Eliza is the one with this Emma who is with Frederick Jordan in 1841
confirmed by later census

did Frederick die and Emma had Eliza by a rellie of Frederick

he dies
Death Sep 1850
Jordan Frederick Kidderminster 18 257

Births Mar 1850
Jordan Eliza Cleobury M 18 45

think it is this one

Births Dec 1850
Jordan Eliza Kidd* 18 403



cos looks like her mother is this Emma

1881: Croft, Dudley, Worc
Emma Jordan 60 Head Wid Midwife Dudley
William Jordan 34 Son Lab at Pit
Eliza Rollinson 30 Dau M Nailmaker
Edward Rollinson 30 Lodger M Gen Lab
Edith Rollinson 8 Gr.Dau
Florance Rollinson 2 Gr.Dau
Edward Rollinson Gr.Son

1851: Wolverley Gate, Wolverley, Worc
Emma Jordon 30 Head Wid Turnpike Gate Keeper
George Jordon 11 Son
Sarah Jordon 8 Dau
William Jordon 5 Son
Fanny Jordon 3 Dau
Eliza Jordon 6 Mo Dau


1841: Bewdley Road, Kidderminster
Fredy Jordon 30 Cordwainer (n)
Emma Jordon 15 (y)
George Jordon 1 (y)

Is he a George Frederick
son called George

what do we think?

Re: Eliza Jordan b abt 1850

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:46 pm
by mallosa
:?

Re: Eliza Jordan b abt 1850

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:39 am
by Northern Lass
Well there must be a reason why George was put as the father!
:?

The other ones we looked up on marriages were a Frederick
but this last one is George

I have looked the marriages up for Fanny and Sarah not posted em yet!

Fanny ...father is Frederick Shoemaker
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =392969223

Sarah ...father is Frederick Shoe maker

Emma the mother calls son George

might get the birth on this one
presume it is that Kiddie one
Births Dec 1850
Jordan Eliza Kidd* 18 403

Re: Eliza Jordan b abt 1850

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:24 pm
by grangers14
:?
1871 Census
Transcribed as Jerdan
The Croft, Dudley
Emma Jordan, head, 51, Nailor, Baudley(?)
William, son, 24, Lab in Iron Works, Wolverley
Eliza, daur, mar, 20, Nailor, Wolverley (says 30 on ancestry but looks like 20)

1861 Census
Netherton Hill croft.
Emma Jordan, head, W, 41, Beld? Ley(?)
George, son, 21, Coal Miner, Beld? Ley(?)
Sarah, daur, Nailor, Beld? Ley(?)
William, son, 15, Coal Miner, Wolverley
Fanny, daur, 12, Nailor, Wolverley
Eliza, daur, 10, Wolverley

Re: Eliza Jordan b abt 1850

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:58 pm
by mallosa
grangers14 wrote:
1861 Census
Netherton Hill croft.
Emma Jordan, head, W, 41, Beld? Ley(?)
George, son, 21, Coal Miner, Beld? Ley(?)
Sarah, daur, Nailor, Beld? Ley(?)
William, son, 15, Coal Miner, Wolverley
Fanny, daur, 12, Nailor, Wolverley
Eliza, daur, 10, Wolverley


1871: 16, Blackbrook Road, Dudley, Worc
Benjn Simcox 22 Head Lab Iron Works b.Woodside
Fanny Simcox 22 Wife Nailmaker b.Wolverley

Re: Eliza Jordan b abt 1850

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:15 am
by Northern Lass
Add that if you get a min Mally and Jo if you can add any that aint on for this family

I am ordering that birth one

for Eliza Jordan

Births Dec 1850
Jordan Eliza Kidd* 18 403

do we think that is the correct one not the Cleobury mortimor one?

was there a bapt for this Eliza?

Jimmy which church is it likely to be for that area?

Re: Eliza Jordan b abt 1850

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:17 am
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote::?
1871 Census
Transcribed as Jerdan
The Croft, Dudley
Emma Jordan, head, 51, Nailor, Baudley(?)
William, son, 24, Lab in Iron Works, Wolverley
Eliza, daur, mar, 20, Nailor, Wolverley (says 30 on ancestry but looks like 20)

1861 Census
Netherton Hill croft.
Emma Jordan, head, W, 41, Beld? Ley(?)
George, son, 21, Coal Miner, Beld? Ley(?)
Sarah, daur, Nailor, Beld? Ley(?)
William, son, 15, Coal Miner, Wolverley
Fanny, daur, 12, Nailor, Wolverley
Eliza, daur, 10, Wolverley


So it is Bewdley
which is Worcs
Wolverley
Worcs

are they all Kidderminster?
they are aren't they?

Re: Eliza Jordan b abt 1850

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:30 am
by Northern Lass
Ok will order this bc in a min

so unless otherwise advised this will be moved to arc section

Re: *UPDATE cert arrived!*--Eliza Jordan b abt 1850

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:53 pm
by Northern Lass
Got the cert
father is Frederick
updated Black Country Connections
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections