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COMPLETED George Robert Shirley - For mjay

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2026 2:56 pm
by BC Wench
I have completed another one mjay from St Mark, Ocker Hill, Tipton Gravestones and Tipton Remembers.

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=685969

What an awful lot of sorrow has happened to this family in such a short time. George Robert died aged 27, his Dad Robert George aged 32, his Mom Emily Jane just aged 18, his sister Emily Jane aged 21 days, his stepmother Drusilla aged 42.

I got so involved that I had to purchase the death certificates for his mom Emily Jane and Emily Jane his sister.

Right, onwards and upwards.

Re: George Robert Shirley - For mjay

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2026 4:14 pm
by mjay
Thank you :thumbup:

Oh wow you did get invested in this family didn't you.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/177 ... rt-shirley

Re: George Robert Shirley - For mjay

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2026 4:37 pm
by mjay
Spouse Harriet Holder

Dob abt 1892

Baptism
Staffordshire
Place Darlaston
Church name St Lawrence
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 74
Baptism date 22 Mar 1891
Person forename Harriet
Person sex F
Father forename Absalom
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname HOLDER
Person abode Pinfold Alley
Father occupation Nut & Bolt Forger

Then there's another Baptism dated 30/3/1892 with the same info as above

Parents
Absolom Holder & Nancy Holmes

Parents Marriage
25/12/1888 Staffordshire Darlaston St Lawrence
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 105
Marriage date 25 Dec 1888
Groom forename Absalom
Groom surname HOLDER
Groom age 21
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Bolt & Nut Forger
Groom abode 10 New Rd
Bride forename Nancy
Bride surname HOLMES
Bride age 19
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Pinfold Alley
Groom father forename William
Groom father surname HOLDER
Groom father occupation Lockfiler (deceased)
Bride father forename Thomas
Bride father surname HOLMES
Bride father occupation Ironworker
Witness1 William HOLDER
Witness2 Ellen FLETCHER
Notes Bride & Witness 2 signs X

1891 120 Catherines Cross Darlaston
Absalom Holder24 Head Nut & Bolt Forger
Nancy Holder 20 Wife
Minnie M Holder 1 Daughter
Harriett Holder 11/12 Daughter
All born Darlaston

1901 1 House 8 court 120 Catherines Cross Darlaston
Absalom Holder 36 Head Nu & Bolt Forger
Nancy Holder 30 Wife
Minnie M Holder 11 Daughter
Harriet Holder 9 Daughter
Alice Holder 5 Daughter
Emily Holder 1 Daughter
All born Darlaston

1911 1 House 8 court 120 Catherines Cross Darlaston
Absalom Holder 44 Head Nut & Bolt Forger
Nancy Holder 41 Wife
Minnie May Holder 21 Daughter Nut & Bolt ??
Harriet Holder 19 Daughter Nut & Bolt ??
Emily Holder 11 Daughter
Amelia Holder 9 Daughter
Hannah Holder 7 Daughter
Thomas Holder 5 Son
Alice May Holder 1 Daughter
Elizabeth Holder 4/12 Daughter
All born Darlaston

Re: George Robert Shirley - For mjay

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2026 4:55 pm
by mjay
Harriet Remarried

Freereg
Marriage
25/8/1924 Staffordshire Darlaston St Lawrence
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 15
Marriage date 25 Aug 1924
Groom forename Percival Norman
Groom surname ELWELL
Groom age 29
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Stamper
Groom abode 8 Bull St.
Bride forename Harriet Gertrude
Bride surname HOLDER
Bride age 26
Bride condition spinster
Bride occupation Bolt Screwer
Bride abode 21 Eldon St.
Groom father forename Horace John
Groom father surname ELWELL
Groom father occupation Tank Maker
Bride father forename Reuben
Bride father surname HOLDER
Bride father occupation Tool Maker
Witness1 Job HOLDER
Witness2 Elizabeth FOLLOS

Re: George Robert Shirley - For mjay

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2026 12:38 pm
by BC Wench
Thanks very much mjay for the information on Harriet's parents and family which I will enter onto BCC.
mjay wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2026 4:55 pm Harriet Remarried

Freereg
Marriage
25/8/1924 Staffordshire Darlaston St Lawrence
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 15
Marriage date 25 Aug 1924
Groom forename Percival Norman
Groom surname ELWELL
Groom age 29
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Stamper
Groom abode 8 Bull St.
Bride forename Harriet Gertrude
Bride surname HOLDER
Bride age 26
Bride condition spinster
Bride occupation Bolt Screwer
Bride abode 21 Eldon St.
Groom father forename Horace John
Groom father surname ELWELL
Groom father occupation Tank Maker
Bride father forename Reuben
Bride father surname HOLDER
Bride father occupation Tool Maker
Witness1 Job HOLDER
Witness2 Elizabeth FOLLOS
Regarding the above, this can't be the 2nd marriage of Harriet Holder who first married George Shirley, because she would have been Harriet Shirley a Widow and her father is entered as Reuben Holder which should be Absalom.

Rather than the above go to waste, I will add it onto BCC. :thumbup:

Re: George Robert Shirley - For mjay

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2026 1:02 pm
by BC Wench