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Completed William Charles Bates

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2026 8:31 pm
by mjay
Private R4/089216
William Charles Bates
Abt 1887 - 10/7/1915 (27)
https://www.tiptonremembers.net/index.p ... am-charles

Dob abt 1887 West Bromwich

Baptism
Staffordshire Ocker Hill St Mark
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1594
Birth date 1886
Baptism date 08 Mar 1909
Person forename William Charles
Person sex M
Father forename William
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname BATES
Person abode Ocker Hill
Father occupation Milkman
Notes Aged 22. Birth year based on age at baptism


Parents William Bates & Elizabeth Briggs??

Parents Marriage
Elizabeth Briggs
Gender Female
Age 23
Birth Date abt 1860
Marriage Date 2 Jul 1883
Marriage Place Rushall, Staffordshire, England
Father William Briggs
Spouse William Bates
Gender Male
Age 22
Birth Date abt 1861
Father John Bates


1901 43 King Street, Wednesbury, Staffs.
William Bates (40, Pork Butcher, born Wednesbury), and his 2 children: Fred (17, Timber Porter, born West Bromwich), Samuel (15, Grocer's Assistant, born Tipton), Charles (this is William Charles, 13, Butcher's Porter, born Wednesbury), Herbert (11, Scholar, born Wednesbury), Horace (9, born Wednesbury), Bertha (7, born Wednesbury), Wilfred (5, born Wednesbury), and Jack (3, born Wednesbury).

Marriage 23/12/1907
Staffordshire Tipton St Martin
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 317
Marriage date 23 Dec 1907
Groom forename William Charles
Groom surname BATES
Groom age 22
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Dairyman
Groom abode 79 Toll End Road
Bride forename Abigail
Bride surname RALPH
Bride age 21
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode 2 Horseley Heath
Groom father forename William
Groom father surname BATES
Groom father occupation Butcher
Bride father forename George
Bride father surname RALPH
Bride father occupation Iron worker
Witness1 John SMITH
Witness2 Emma Elizabeth LESTER

1911 84 Toll End Road, Ocker Hill, Tipton, Staffs.
William Charles Bates (23, Milk Deliverer, born Wednesbury), his wife Abigail Bates (23, born Tipton), and their 2 children: Norah Eileen (2, born Tipton), and Ivy (1, born Tipton)
WWI Records
R4/089216 William Charles Bates
Died Home on Saturday, 10th July 1915, age 27.
Buried in Grave N.E. 5. at Ormskirk (Ss. Peter And Paul) Churchyard, Lancashire, United Kingdom.
Army Service Corps, Remount Depot (Ormskirk).
Son of William Bates; husband of Abigail Bates, of 84, Toll End Rd., Ocker Hill, Tipton, Staffs. Born at Wednesbury.
Born: Wednesbury, Enlisted: Tipton, Resident: Tipton.
Never served abroad.
Medal entitlement: No medal entitlement.
Soldier's Papers at National Archives did not survive.

Dod 10/7/1925 (27) Lancashire
William died from fever in Ormskirk Hospital, and had never served abroad.

Buried in Grave N.E. 5. at Ormskirk (Ss. Peter And Paul) Churchyard, Lancashire, United Kingdom.

www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3066714/ĺ on the Tipton Library, and St. Mark's memorials.

Any other info
Tipton Herald August 28 1915
MEMORIAL SERVICE AT OCKER HILL.
MEMORY OF SIX MORE HEROES KEPT GREEN.
At St. Mark's, Ocker Hill, Tipton, on Saturday last, a memorial service was held in respect of the deaths in battle of six more Ocker Hill residents. There was a huge attendance of parishioners. The vicar, Rev. H.C.A. Colville gave the address; the Rev. J.E. Reilly, in the uniform of the R.A.M.C., read the lesson from the Burial Service, and the Rev. John Hunt took the prayers. Suitable hymns were sung and the relatives of the deceased were present.
The Rev. H.C.A. Colville pointed out that when we at home paid a part of the price of victory, it was only a very small fraction of the price that would have to be paid all over the world in whatever corner this great was being waged. They had held the service to show their sympathy with the relatives and friends of the six soldiers whose memories they honoured. They had to realise that they were not on their own, that they were bought with a price, and that the price was being paid by those men who had died for us in the trenches, on the battlefields, and on the seas.
The names of the six men were inscribed inside a wreath that was hung near the pulpit and they were as follows:-
Thomas Henry Tyso(25), of the 1st South Staffs. Killed in action October 21st.
John Rowley (23), of the 46th Canadian Highlanders. Killed in action April 18th.
Lance-Corporal Frank Lamsdale (25), of the 2nd Worcesters. Killed in action May 14th.
George William Worsey (20), of the A.S.C. Died of fever in Willesden hospital, June 18th 1915.
Richard Clarke(21), of the South Staffs. Died June 1st of wounds received at Richebourg.
Charles Bates (27), of the A.S.C. Died of fever in Ormskirk hospital, July 10th 1915.
Others whose memories had already been similarly honoured at St. Mark's are:-
Samuel Naylor (Royal Marines) of H.M.S. Formidable, who was lost at sea in the English Channel on January 1st 1915.
Philip Francis Price (34), H.M.S. Good Hope. Killed in action in the South Pacific, November 1st 1914.
James Edward Sclater (25) South Staffs. Died of wounds received at Ypres, November 7th.
John Henry Clark (28) of the Coldstream Guards. Died of wounds at the Battle of the Marne.

Re: William Charles Bates

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2026 8:33 pm
by mjay
Private R4/089216 William Charles Bates
Spouse
Abigail Ralph
Abt 1888 -

Dob abt 1888

Baptism
Staffordshire Tipton St Martin
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 2136
Baptism date 04 Dec 1887
Person forename Abigail
Person sex F
Father forename George
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname RALPH
Person abode 25 Horseley Heath
Father occupation Furnace man

Parents George Ralph & Elizabeth ??

Parents Marriage I can't find

1891 25 Horseley Heath Tipton
George Ralph 35 Head Sheet Mill Furnaceman
Elizabeth Ralph 35 Wife
Mary Ann Ralph 10 Daughter
Harry Ralph 7 Son
Albert Ralph 5 Son
Abigail Ralph 3 Daughter
All born Tipton

1901 25 Horseley Heath Tipton
George Ralph 45 Head Sheet Iron ?
Elizabeth Ralph 45 Wife
Mary A Ralph 20 Monthly Nurse
Daughter
Harry Ralph 17 Son Wood??
Albert Ralph 15 Son Telegraph Messenger
Abigail Ralph 13 Daughter ??
All born Tipton


Marriage 1907 Dudley
Staffordshire Tipton St Martin
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 317
Marriage date 23 Dec 1907
Groom forename William Charles
Groom surname BATES
Groom age 22
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Dairyman
Groom abode 79 Toll End Road
Bride forename Abigail
Bride surname RALPH
Bride age 21
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode 2 Horseley Heath
Groom father forename William
Groom father surname BATES
Groom father occupation Butcher
Bride father forename George
Bride father surname RALPH
Bride father occupation Iron worker
Witness1 John SMITH
Witness2 Emma Elizabeth LESTER

1911 84 Toll End Road, Ocker Hill, Tipton, Staffs.
William Charles Bates (23, Milk Deliverer, born Wednesbury), his wife Abigail Bates (23, born Tipton), and their 2 children: Norah Eileen (2, born Tipton), and Ivy (1, born Tipton

Re: William Charles Bates

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2026 7:17 pm
by mjay

Re: William Charles Bates

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2026 1:07 pm
by kdwoodie
RALPH, ABIGAIL GRIFFIN
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 48



Staffordshire
Place Ocker Hill
Church name (Links to more information) St Mark
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 429
Marriage date 17 Sep 1876
Groom forename George
Groom surname ROLFE
Groom age full age
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Furnaceman
Groom abode Church Lane
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname GRIFFIN
Bride age full age
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Horseley Heath
Groom father forename Samuel
Groom father surname ROLFE
Groom father occupation Miner
Witness1 Samuel MILLS
Witness2 Hannah BACH
Notes Groom & Bride sign X. Brides fathers details not given.

Re: William Charles Bates

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2026 2:36 pm
by mjay
Thanks Kd :thumbup:

Do you agree this is Williams Parents

William Bates & Elizabeth Briggs??

Freereg
Staffordshire Rushall St Michael the Archangel
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 306
Marriage date 02 Jul 1883
Groom forename William
Groom surname BATES
Groom age 22
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Butcher
Groom abode Ryecroft
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname BRIGGS
Bride age 23
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Ryecroft
Groom father forename John
Groom father surname BATES
Groom father occupation Fitting maker
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname BRIGGS
Bride father occupation Engine driver
Witness1 John GARBETT
Witness2 Harriet BOOKER

Parents Marriage
Elizabeth Briggs
Gender Female
Age 23
Birth Date abt 1860
Marriage Date 2 Jul 1883
Marriage Place Rushall, Staffordshire, England
Father William Briggs
Spouse William Bates
Gender Male
Age 22
Birth Date abt 1861
Father John Bates

Re: William Charles Bates

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2026 3:20 pm
by kdwoodie
Yes

BATES, WILLIAM  CHARLES  BRIGGS  GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in WESTBROMWICH  Volume 06B  Page 792

Re: William Charles Bates

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2026 4:18 pm
by mjay

Re: Completed William Charles Bates

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2026 6:44 pm
by grangers14
Thank you both :)