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this looks like louisa

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=680720


have we got any information on who Louisa father is?

23rd November 1806. All Saints, Sedgley.
George Allen, Sedley, B
Louisa Whitehouse, Sedgley S
Witnesses, James Evans, Thomas Egan,
Note, Additional Witness, John Newton


Lois death

St. Giles' Churchyard Rowley Regis, Cemetery
Lois Whitehouse Allen
Birth Date 1790
Death Date 19 Dec 1866
Event Type Burial

grangers14

I have updated info on Lois
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =648816435

I can't see anything more concrete to add at the moment.

Just found this on Freereg

Staffordshire
Place Coseley
Other Transcript
Birth date 21 Aug 1807
Baptism date 01 Sep 1807
Person forename Isaac
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Mother surname WHITEHOUSE
Person abode Princes End
Father occupation Labourer
Notes Bapt at Princes End; witnessed by Moses WHITEHOUSE, father of Lois.

kdwoodie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2026 9:20 am Just found this on Freereg

Staffordshire
Place Coseley
Other Transcript
Birth date 21 Aug 1807
Baptism date 01 Sep 1807
Person forename Isaac
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Mother surname WHITEHOUSE
Person abode Princes End
Father occupation Labourer
Notes Bapt at Princes End; witnessed by Moses WHITEHOUSE, father of Lois.

so isaac looks like it wrong on ancestry evaluation her father looks like Moses

come across this

James Allen
Sex Male
Birth Date 1 Feb 1809
Father's Name George Allen
Father's Sex Male
Mother's Name Lois Whitehouse
Mother's Sex Female
Event Type Christening
Event Date 16 Nov 1809
Event Place Sedgley, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Coseley Old Meeting-Presbyterian, Sedgley, Stafford, England


Name George Allen
Sex Male
Father's Name George Allen
Father's Sex Male
Mother's Name Lois
Mother's Sex Female
Event Type Christening
Event Date 2 Feb 1812
Event Place Tipton, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom



possible? was James re christened when Anne and Lois was christened ?


James Allen
Principal
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Christening 20 February 1814
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Birth 1 February 1809
Parents Geo Allen, Lois


Job Allen
Principal
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Christening 14 January 1816
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Parents Geo Allen, Lois


David Allen
Principal
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Christening 26 September 1819
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Birth 10 February 1818
Parents Geo Allen, Lois


Jane Allen
Principal
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Christening 26 September 1819
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Parents Geo Allen, Lois


George Allen
Principal
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Christening 2 February 1812
Tipton, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Parents George Allen, Lois


Noah Allen
Principal
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Christening 25 December 1824
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Death 2 January 1825
Parents Geo Allen, Lois


Jeremiah Allen
Principal
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Christening 16 February 1823
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Birth 17 April 1821
Parents George Allen, Lois


Anne Allen
Principal
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Christening 20 February 1814
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Birth 29 February 1812
Parents Geo Allen, Lois


Lois Allen
Principal
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Christening 20 February 1814
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Parents Geo Allen, Lois


Eunice Allen
Principal
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Christening 16 February 1823
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Parents George Allen, Lois


George Allen
Principal
England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944
Baptism 1812
Tipton, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Parents Lois, George Allen

Freereg
Staffordshire
Place Coseley
Other Transcript
Birth date 21 Aug 1807
Baptism date 01 Sep 1807
Person forename Isaac
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Mother surname WHITEHOUSE
Person abode Princes End
Father occupation Labourer
Notes Bapt at Princes End; witnessed by Moses WHITEHOUSE, father of Lois.

Coseley
Old Meeting House
Other Transcript
Burial date 08 Sep 1807
Burial person forename Isaac
Relationship son of
Male relative forename George Blois
Relative surname ALLEN
Burial person surname ALLEN
Burial person abode Sedgley
Notes Isaac is infant

Coseley
Old Meeting House
Other Transcript
Birth date 01 Feb 1809
Baptism date 16 Nov 1809
Person forename James
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Mother surname WHITEHOUSE
Person abode Tipton
Father occupation Labourer
Notes Lois is d of Moses WHITEHOUSE

Tipton
St Martin
Other Transcript
Baptism date 02 Feb 1812
Person forename George
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN

Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 232
Birth date 01 Feb 1809
Baptism date 20 Feb 1814
Person forename James
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Person abode Brockmoor
Father occupation Mill man

Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 231
Birth date 29 Feb 1812
Baptism date 20 Feb 1814
Person forename Anne
Person sex F
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Person abode Brockmoor
Father occupation Mill man

Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 230
Baptism date 20 Feb 1814
Person forename Lois
Person sex F
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Person abode Brockmoor
Father occupation Mill man

Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 667
Baptism date 14 Jan 1816
Person forename Job
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Person abode Harts Hill Row
Father occupation Mill man

Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 1448
Birth date 10 Feb 1818
Baptism date 26 Sep 1819
Person forename David
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Person abode Harts Hill Row
Father occupation Iron slitter

Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 1449
Baptism date 26 Sep 1819
Person forename Jane
Person sex F
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Person abode Harts Hill Row
Father occupation Iron slitter

Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 2283
Birth date 07 Apr 1821
Baptism date 16 Feb 1823
Person forename Jeremiah
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Person abode Harts Hill Row
Father occupation Iron slitter

Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 2282
Baptism date 16 Feb 1823
Person forename Eunice
Person sex F
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Person abode Harts Hill Row
Father occupation Iron slitter

Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 453
Baptism date 25 Dec 1824
Person forename Noah
Person sex M
Father forename George
Mother forename Lois
Father surname ALLEN
Person abode Harts Hill Row
Father occupation Iron slitter

Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 1625
Burial date 02 Jan 1825
Burial person forename Noah
Relationship son of
Male relative forename George
Female relative forename Lois
Burial person surname ALLEN
Person age infant
Burial person abode Round Oak

Name George Allen
Gender Male
Birth Date 1788
Death Date 30 May 1841
Death Place Brierley Hill, Metropolitan Borough of Dudley, West Midlands, England
Cemetery St Mary Churchyard
Burial or Cremation Place Kingswinford, Metropolitan Borough of Dudley, West Midlands, England
Has Bio? N
Spouse
Lois Allen
Children
Eunice Harcourt
URL
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/224 ... orge-allen

found this on a tree

Marriage 13 Nov 1777 • Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire,

Moses Whitehouse 1755–1796
Ann Bradbury 1756–

kids

Elizabeth Whitehouse 1778–
Hannah Whitehouse 1781–
Ann Whitehouse 1782–
Isaac Whitehouse 1785–1831
Moses Whitehouse 1786–1851
Nancy Whitehouse 1788–1829
Lois Whitehouse 1790–1866
Mary Whitehouse 1790–

found this for a possible moses

Name Moses Whitehouse

Father's Name Isaac Whitehouse
Mother's Name Mary
Event Type Christening 21 Mar 1756 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Event Place (Original) New Meeting House Moor Street-Unitarian, Birmingham, Warwick, England

I found the same, but i have a query if Moses was a witness to Isaac' birth in 1807 he was supposed to have died in 1796 is it the same Moses ?

I cannot find any baptism for Lois to verify.
If Lois was supposedly born in Brierley Hill could this be Moses

Freereg
Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 2323
Burial date 14 Feb 1841
Burial person forename Moses
Burial person surname WHITEHOUSE
Person age 92
Burial person abode Round Oak

Have added children of George Allen and Lois Whitehouse here

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =743162136

Am working on Lois Allen and William Pratts children here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =102821840

kdwoodie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2026 9:48 pm I found the same, but i have a query if Moses was a witness to Isaac' birth in 1807 he was supposed to have died in 1796 is it the same Moses ?

I cannot find any baptism for Lois to verify.
If Lois was supposedly born in Brierley Hill could this be Moses

Freereg
Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 2323
Burial date 14 Feb 1841
Burial person forename Moses
Burial person surname WHITEHOUSE
Person age 92
Burial person abode Round Oak

see what you mean i wouldn't be surprise if the death date is wrong, as you see on most of the trees they even copy the mistakes rather than look to verify the data, lois marriage is register office one

I wonder if the Birmingham connection is wrong.

There is this

Freereg
Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
St Peter
Parish Register
Marriage date 29 Jul 1782
Groom forename Moses
Groom surname WHITEHOUSE
Groom parish Great and Little Hampton Worcestershire
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname HADLEY
Witness1 Susanna BRETT
Witness2 Isaac WHITEHOUSE
Notes Licence

kdwoodie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2026 6:47 pm I wonder if the Birmingham connection is wrong.

There is this

Freereg
Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
St Peter
Parish Register
Marriage date 29 Jul 1782
Groom forename Moses
Groom surname WHITEHOUSE
Groom parish Great and Little Hampton Worcestershire
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname HADLEY
Witness1 Susanna BRETT
Witness2 Isaac WHITEHOUSE
Notes Licence

anything possible wonder if Isaac s the brother of Moses and that where the DNA connection is, Isaac being William father

peterd wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2026 8:48 pm

kdwoodie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2026 6:47 pm I wonder if the Birmingham connection is wrong.

There is this

Freereg
Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
St Peter
Parish Register
Marriage date 29 Jul 1782
Groom forename Moses
Groom surname WHITEHOUSE
Groom parish Great and Little Hampton Worcestershire
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname HADLEY
Witness1 Susanna BRETT
Witness2 Isaac WHITEHOUSE
Notes Licence

anything possible wonder if Isaac s the brother of Moses and that where the DNA connection is, Isaac being William father

are we going to add moses as the father and this is a poss marriage in the notes?

Added here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =588487376