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Private 40098 William Allen
6/6/1889 - 22/10/1916 (26)
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Dob abt 6/6/1889 West Bromwich

Baptism
Staffordshire West Bromwich
Church name Greets Green Primitive Methodist
Register type Other Register
Register entry number 596
Birth date 06 Jun 1889
Baptism date 24 Jun 1889
Person forename William
Person sex M
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Mary Ann
Father surname ALLEN
Person abode 62 William St, West Bromwich
Father occupation Iron worker

Parents Thomas Allen & Mary Ann Johnson

Parents Marriage
Thomas Allen
Record Type Bann
Residence Place West Bromwich
Marriage Banns Date 11 Sep 1887
Marriage Banns Place West Bromwich, St Peter, Staffordshire, England
Spouse Mary Ann Johnson
Religion Anglican

Freereg
Marriage 16/10/1887 St James Hill Top
Staffordshire West Bromwich
Church name St James (Hill Top)
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 472
Marriage date 16 Oct 1887
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname ALLEN
Groom age 24
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Iron worker
Groom abode William St, Great Bridge
Bride forename Mary Ann
Bride surname JOHNSON
Bride age 27
Bride condition spinster
Bride occupation Servant
Bride abode New St, Hill Top
Groom father forename David
Groom father surname ALLEN
Groom father occupation Blacksmith
Bride father forename David
Bride father surname JOHNSON
Bride father occupation Lock fitter
Witness 1 Henry ALLEN
Witness 2 Ellen JOHNSON

1891 62 William St West Bromwich
Thomas Allen 32 Head Mill Furnaceman
Mary A Allen 30 Wife
William Allen 1 Son
Mary Ann Allen 8/12 Daughter
All born West Bromwich

1901 62a William Street, West Bromwich, Staffs.
Thomas Allen (42, General Labourer in Railway Carriage Works, born West Bromwich), his wife Mary Ann (40, born West Bromwich), and their 5 children: William (11, born West Bromwich), Mary Ann (10, born West Bromwich), Hannah Elizabeth (8, born West Bromwich), George Edge (5, born West Bromwich) and Thomas (1, born West Bromwich).

1911 62a William Street, West Bromwich, Staffs.
Thomas Allen (52, Labourer, born West Bromwich), his wife Mary Ann (49, born West Bromwich), and their 5 surviving children of 11: William (21, Rivetter in Railway Carriage Works, born West Bromwich), Mary Ann (20, Packer in Glass Works, born West Bromwich), Hannah Elizabeth (18, Shop Assistant, born West Bromwich), George Edge (15, Rivet Heater, born West Bromwich) and Thomas (11, Scholar, born West Bromwich).

Marriage
15/8/1915 St Martins Lower Church Lane Tipton
Staffordshire Tipton
Church name St Martin
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 278
Marriage date 15 Aug 1915
Groom forename William
Groom surname ALLEN
Groom age 26
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Private 2/5th South Stafford
Groom abode Dudley Port
Bride forename Eliza
Bride surname WILLIAMS
Bride age 25 Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Peel St.
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname ALLEN
Groom father occupation Rivetter
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname WILLIAMS
Bride father occupation Painter
Witness 1 Jabez YATES
Witness 2 Ethel May WILLIAMS

William Allen and Eliza Williams married at St. Martin's Church, Lower Church Lane, Tipton, in September quarter 1915. William was 26 years old and his occupation 'Private in the 2/5th Battalion, South Staffs Regiment', and living in Dudley Port.

WW1 Records
Private 40098 William Allen
Killed in Action on Sunday, 22nd October 1916, age 26.
Commemorated on Pier and Face 5 A & 6 C of Thiepval Memorial, Somme, France.
10th Bn., Worcestershire Regiment. 57th Brigade of 19th Division.
Formerly 9851 South Staffs Regiment.
Husband of Mrs Eliza Allen, of 196 Dudley Port, Tipton, Staffs.
Born: West Bromwich, Enlisted: West Bromwich, Resident: Tipton.
Soldier's Papers at National Archives did not survive.

William Allen
Birth Place West Bromwich, Staffs
Residence Tipton, Staffs
Death Date 22 Oct 1916
Death Place France and Flanders
Enlistment Place West Bromwich Rank Private
Regiment Worcestershire Regiment Battalion10th Battalion
Regimental Number 40098
Type of Casualty Killed in action
Theatre of War Western European Theatre Comments Formerly 9851, South Staffs Regt.

Dod 22/10/1916 (26) KIA France

Burial William Allen has no known grave

www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/773314/

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Commemorated on Pier and Face 5 A & 6 C of Thiepval Memorial, Somme, France.
Commemorated on the St. Peter's, Greets Green Memorial.

Spouse Eliza Williams??/Allen

Dob 21/11/1890
Eliza Williams
Registration Date 1890
[1890]
Quarter of the Year Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Place West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Volume 6b
Page 798

Possible Baptism
Staffordshire
Place Golds Green
Church name (Links to more information) Primitive Methodist
Register type (Links to more information) Other Register
Birth date 21 Nov 1890
Baptism date 04 Dec 1890
Person forename Eliza Jane
Person sex F
Father forename William Henry
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname WILLIAMS
Person abode Dial Lane
Father occupation Sinker

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Parents Marriage

1891 163 Dial Lane West Bromwich
William Williams 43 Head Stone Miner Darlaston
Elizabeth Williams 40 Wife Bilston
Elizabeth A Williams 19 Daughter Bilston
William H Williams 18 Son Coalminer Sedgley
Selina Williams 17 Daughter Domestic Servant Dudley
Alice Williams 11 Daughter Dudley
Eli Williams 6 Son Yorkshire
Sarah A Williams 4 Daughter Yorkshire
John T Williams 1 4/12 Son Yorkshire
Eliza J Williams 5/12 Daughter West Bromwich

1901 Can't read Address
Wm Hy Williams 53 Head Pit Sinker
Elizabeth Ann Williams 50 Wife
Elis Williams 16 Son
John Thos Williams 12 Son
Eliza Jane Williams 11 Daughter
Ethel May Williams 5 Daughter

1911 21 Waterloo Street, Dudley
William Williams 63 Head Pit Sinker
Elizabeth Williams 60 Wife
Eliza Williams 20 Daughter
Ethel Williams 16 Daughter

Husband William Allen's WW1 records
on 6th November 1918. Eliza's address was given as 196 Dudley Port, Tipton, but at some time she had been living at Block 13A, Muntions Houses (Huts), Birmingham Road, Dudley. This suggests that she had been working in munitions at some stage, likely at the National Projectile Munitions Work in Hall Street, Dudley.

Eliza Allen
Gender Female
Birth Date 21 Nov 1890
Residence Place 196 Dudley Port Tipton
Relation to Soldier Widow
Title WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description Other Ranks Died Allen J-Allen W
Next of Kin Relation to Soldier
William Allen
Eliza Allen Widow

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Help to confirm spouse Eliza Jane Williams parents please.

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1901 Can't read Address
Wm Hy Williams 53 Head Pit Sinker
Elizabeth Ann Williams 50 Wife
Elis Williams 16 Son
John Thos Williams 12 Son
Eliza Jane Williams 11 Daughter
Ethel May Williams 5 Daughter

38, Junction Street, Oldbury

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Thanks Jo

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