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While going through William Birts post
Thought it best to do a seperate post for wife Rose Jane James.

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =595225598

Dob abt 1869
Rose Jane James
Registration Date 1869
Quarter of the Year Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Place Banbury, Oxfordshire, England
Volume 3a
Page 692

Baptism ??

Parents
John James
Hannah ??

Parents Marriage I havent found anything ??

1871 ??mill Hill West Bromwich
John James 28 Head Labourer in Ironworks
Shrewsbury Shropshire
Hannah James 27 Wife
Jonathan James 10 Son
Jane James 5 Daughter
Rose James 1 Daughter
Elizabeth James 4/12 Daughter
Henry Lumber 16 Boarder

1881 Back 69 Long Acre St
William Tonks 32 Head Coalminer
Hannah Tonks 33 Wife
Sarah J. Tonks 15 Step Daughter
Rose James 12 Lodger
Richard James 6 Lodger
Sarah Tonks 7 Daughter
John Tonks 5 Son

Dod
Registration Date Oct 1940
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Walsall
Inferred County Staffordshire
Volume 6b Page 1269

Father John James
Dob 1843
Registration Date 1843
Quarter of the Year Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Place Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Volume 18
Page 15

1871 ??mill Hill West Bromwich
John James 28 Head Labourer in Ironworks
Shrewsbury Shropshire
Hannah James 27 Wife
Jonathan James 10 Son
Jane James 5 Daughter
Rose James 1 Daughter
Elizabeth James 4/12 Daughter
Henry Lumber 16 Boarder

Mother Hannah I'm not seeing anything at all

JAMES, ROSE JANE COX
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in BANBURY Volume 03A Page 692

Is this Roses mother ?
Freereg
Walsall
Value
St Paul
Parish Register
Register entry number 117
Marriage date 25 Jul 1881
William TONKS 32 widower Collier Walsall John TONKS Collier
Hannah COX 33 spinster Walsall James COX Sawyer
Witness1 Joseph MILLS
Witness2 Sarah Ann JONES
Notes Groom and Witness 1 signed with a mark.

Thanks San & Kd

Nice find, It could be but I'm confused
(I know, it doesn't take alot does it )

If it is she appears to have used her Maiden name not her Surname from previous marriage to John James

Shall I add this to bcc and make a note as a possible & put this as brickwall. Its a bit baffling this one eh

I think the marriage is correct that KDW found.

1891. 8, Union Street, West Bromwich
William Tonks, head, 45, Coal Miner, Wednesbury
Hannah Tonks, wife, 48, Banbury, Oxfordshire
Sarah Tonks, 18, Screw maker, Walsall
Eliza Tonks, daur, 10, Walsall
Annie James, daur, 3, Wednesbury
Richard James, 17, son, Drawer at Furnace, Wednesbury
Mary Tonks, daur, 13, Wednesbury
William Lowmak, Boarder, 33, Doing odd jobs, Derbyshire

I don't think she was married to John James

I think the same.

I will try and alter somethings mjay.

Hannah was born in Oxfordshire not Warwickshire

COX, HANNAH ELIZABETH HINTON
GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in BANBURY UNION Volume 16 Page 2

Oxfordshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Banbury, St Mary, Oxfordshire, England
6 Feb 1840
James Cox Full age Bachelor Sawyer Back Lane Banbury Thomas Cox Labourer
Mary Anne Hinton Minor Spinster Back Lane Banbury Thomas Hinton Draper
Bride * Groom mark X
Wit 1 John Tasker X
Wit 2 Mary Lofter ? Signed


1851 Neithrop Oxfordshire
James Cox 32 Head Mar Sawyer Born Banbury
Mary Ann Cox 30 Wife Mar Born Helmdon Northamptonshire
Thomas Cox 12 Son Born Banbury
Hannah Cox 8 Daughter Born Neithrop
James Cox 2 Son Born Neithrop

Possible
Oxfordshire, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1965
Name Mary Ann Cox
Death Age 38
Birth Date abt 1817
Burial Date 10 Feb 1855
Burial Place Banbury, St Mary, Oxfordshire, England
Parish as it Appears Banbury

Oxfordshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Banbury, St Mary, Oxfordshire, England
26 Sept 1855
James Cox 35 Widower Sawyer Neithrop Thomas Cox Labourer
Jane Lumber 22 Spinster Neitrop Henry Lumber Turner
Wit 1 Wm Willett
Wit 2 Sarah French
All Sign

1861 Neithrop Oxfrodshire
James Cox 45 Head Mar Farrier Born Banbury
Jane Cox 26 Wife Mar Born Bristol
James Cox 13 Son Scholar Born Neithrop
George Cox 9 Son Scholar Born Neithrop
Henry Cox 7 Son Scholar Born Neithrop
William Cox 5 Son Scholar Born Neithrop
John O Cox 7/12 Son Born Neithrop

In 1871 the census for John James and Hannah lists Henry Lumber is he related to Hannahs stepmother ?

1871 Crabmill Hill West Bromwich
John James 28 Head Mar Labourer in Ironworks Born Shrewsbury Salop
Hannah James 27 Wife Mar Born (Looks like Neithrope}
Jonathan James 10 Son Scholar Born Wednesbury
Jane James 5 Daughter Born Wednesbury
Rose James 1 Daughter Born Banbury
Elizabeth James 4/12 Daughter Born Wednwsbury
Henry Lumber 16 Boarder Unm Labourer in Ironworks born Bristol

Thank you for that KDW.
I am sure Henry Lumbar must be related.
I will add some more.

1861. Church Street, Wednesbury
James Bayley, head, 60, Blacksmith, West Bromwich, Blind
Sarah, wife, 48, washerwoman,
Thomas James, son in law, 23, Labourer at Ironworks,
John James, son in law, 19, Labourer at Ironworks
Richard James, son in law, 11, Wolverhampton
All others Shrewsbury


I have added that but just to remind myself.
We need to find Hannah earlier census and other children.

Just to make it even more confusing James married Rachel French after Jane died.

I've searched for Hannah in 1861 and can't find anything for her or Jonathan or Jane. It's possible that Jane could be Sarah Jane.

I think Hannah died in 1896.

William Tonks is also difficult as he was married before and after Hannah.

I will just sticky this as I have a few busy days so unable to add.
Thank you kdw.