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Northern Lass wrote:
25 December 1854 at St Peter's, Walsall
William Beard Brown, F, Bac, Curty?, Plefton? St, (father) William Brown, Hannah?
Margaret Allen, F, Spin, Green Lane, (father) Richard? Allen, Carter
Witnesses:??? Allen, ??? Allen
(The writing on this one was appalling but I did my best - italics are a best shot!)

I couldn't find the marriage in 1871 of William Beard Brown and Ann Allen that someone on the forum found -

Mg it would be a shame to waste any of this excellent info
so do add and connect ( if it does) to the Black Country Connections tree
it will then help anyone else that visits the tree

By the time I got back Peter had been super efficient with most of the details but I don't think he got to this one but I can't remember how William Beard Brown fitted in.

I remember we thought a plain William Brown had married Margaret Allen and we thought that William Beard Brown had married an Ann Allen (the one I couldn't find!) and I believe there was a possibility that Margaret and Ann were sisters.

Wasn't it still illegal to marry a dead wife's sister then? or was that just not allowed in Church? When did civil marriages in registry offices start? There were some Walsall churches where it said the records were still with the church itself but I think I checked all the ones that were in the record centre that were open at the time of the marriage we found referenced for William Beard Brown and Ann Allen.

Can anyone else pick up the trail on this?

been looking for it its in the archive under the original thread

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=2349&p=27772&hilit=ann+allen#p27772

its not part of norma tree will put it on bcc though as part of the other tree

bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =297822944

here the other marriage

Marriages Jun 1871

Allen Ann Walsall 6b 853
Brown William Beard Walsall 6b 853


also update bcc


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =223810919


so which one of the browns married a kendrick ?

1881 8 Woodwards Bldgs Darlaston, Stafford

William B. BROWN M Male 48 Walsall, Stafford, Hinge Caster
Ann BROWN M Female 42 Walsall, Stafford,
Mary A. BROWN 24 Walsall, Stafford, Brush Filler
Catharine BROWN 21 Walsall, Stafford, Buckle Maker
Ann BROWN 9 Walsall, Stafford, Scholar
Richard BROWN 6 Walsall, Stafford, Scholar
Emily BROWN 2 Walsall, Stafford,
Will. B. KENDRICK 6 m Darlaston, Stafford, G,son

can we also find the 1851,61 census with william and hannah margaret (his first wife )

peterd wrote:here the other marriage

Marriages Jun 1871

Allen Ann Walsall 6b 853
Brown William Beard Walsall 6b 853

so which one of the browns married a kendrick ?

1881 8 Woodwards Bldgs Darlaston, Stafford

William B. BROWN M Male 48 Walsall, Stafford, Hinge Caster
Ann BROWN M Female 42 Walsall, Stafford,
Mary A. BROWN 24 Walsall, Stafford, Brush Filler
Catharine BROWN 21 Walsall, Stafford, Buckle Maker
Ann BROWN 9 Walsall, Stafford, Scholar
Richard BROWN 6 Walsall, Stafford, Scholar
Emily BROWN 2 Walsall, Stafford,
Will. B. KENDRICK 6 m Darlaston, Stafford, G,son

[quote="Maths girl]25 December 1854 at St Peter's, Walsall
William Beard Brown, F, Bac, Curty?, Plefton? St, (father) William Brown, Hannah?
Margaret Allen, F, Spin, Green Lane, (father) Richard? Allen, Carter
Witnesses:??? Allen, ??? Allen
(The writing on this one was appalling but I did my best - italics are a best shot!)

I couldn't find the marriage in 1871 of William Beard Brown and Ann Allen that someone on the forum found - [/quote]

To be precise!
The certificate for Margaret's marriage actually states William Brown in the husbands name but is very clearly signed as William Beard Brown

1861 62 Low Rushall Street
Anne Allen Head Wid. 58 Born Rushall
Anne Allen Daur. 21 Born Walsall
William Allen Son 36 Iron Caster Born Walsall
William Brown Son in law Wid. 27 Iron Caster Born Walsall
Anne Brown Grand daur. 5 Scholar Born walsall
Mary A Brown Grand daur. 4 Scholar Born Walsall
William Brown Grandson 3 Scholar boen Walsall
Catherine Brown 18 Mo Born Walsall

1851 James Buildings Walsall
Richard Allen Head 47 Caster Born Walsall
Ann Allen Wife 48 Born Rushall
William Allen Son 26 Caster Born Walsall
John Allen Son 19 Caster Born Walsall
Mary Ann Allen Duar. 15 Servant Born Walsall
Thomas Allen Son 14 Caster Born Walsall
Ann Allen Daur. 11 Born Walsall

1841 Ditch? Walsall
Richard Allen 29 Carter ? Could be Caster
Ann Allen 40
William Allen 16
John Allen 10
Mary Allen 7
Thomas Allen 4
Anne Allen 2
All born in county

William Brown
1851 Pinfolds Bank Walsall
Wm Heard Head 56 Hat Maker Born Walsall (Image says Beards)
Catharine Heard Wife 58 Born Walsall
Wm Brard Brown Grandson 17 Iron Caster Born Walsall (Image says Beards)

1841 Paddock Hill Walsall
William Beard 40 Hat M
Mary Beard 40
William and Ann Beard not born in county
Next door
William Brown 7 Born in county
Ann Barber/Bauber? 40 Ind Not born in County

not sure where we are up to with this one

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