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This Eli
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appears to have child by an Elizabeth Collins and then live with a Kate Unknown but no trace of marriages and Elizabeth Colins goes on to marry .
Cannot trace Eli or his mother Mary before 1881 Census

LOVELL, ELI PAGE.
GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 240.

Sedgley All Saints.
Marriage date 08 Nov 1835.
John LOVELL. Sedgley. bachelor.
Mary PAGE. Sedgley. spinster.
Witness 1 Maria DARBEY.
Witness 2 William SMITH.
Notes Bride & both Witnesses sign X.

1851. Dudley Road, Tipton.
John Lovell Head Married Male 35 1816 Coal miner Dudley, England
Mary Lovell Wife Married Female 40 1811 - Shropshire, England
Keziah Lovell Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1838 - Dudley, England
Isaiah Lovell Son - Male 11 1840 - Dudley, England
John Lovell Son - Male 9 1842 - Dudley, England
Eli Lovell Son - Male 7 1844 - Dudley, England
Elizabeth Lovell Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Dudley, England
William Lovell Son - Male 0 1851 - Tipton, Staffordshire

1861. Dudley Road, Tipton.
John Lovell Head Married Male 45 1816 Coal miner Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Mary Lovell Wife Married Female 47 1814 - Worcestershire, England
Keziah Lovell Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1839 - Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Isaiah Lovell Son Widower Male 20 1841 Coal miner Dudley, Worcestershire, England
John Lovell Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 Forge labourer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Eli Lovell Son Unmarried Male 15 1846 Forge labourer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Elizabeth Lovell Daughter - Female 12 1849 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Samuel Lovell Son - Male 10 1851 Forge labourer Tipton, Staffordshire

1871. Back Street, Sedgley.
John Lovell Head - Male 55 1816 Miner Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Mary Lovell Wife - Female 58 1813 Miner wife Wellington, Shropshire, England
Maria Lovell Daughter - Female 32 1839 - Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Eli Lovell Son - Male 23 1848 Peddler Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Samuel Lovell Son - Male 19 1852 Peddler Tipton, Staffordshire,

1891 census FMP as Eli as Lovell.

1891. 12, Bridge Street, Sedgley.
Eli Lovall Head Married Male 44 1847 Puddler Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Kate Lovall Wife Married Female 51 1840 - -
Mary Lovall - Widow Female 80 1811 - -
Sophia Lovall Daughter Single Female 11 1880 - Coseley.

I can't see a marrriage.

Coseley Christ Church.
Burial date 16 Jan 1876.
John LOVATTE.
Person age 60.
Burial person abode Coseley.

1901. 12, Bridge Street, Sedgley, Dudley.
Eli Lovatt. Head. Dudley. Single. Ironworker puddler.

Thanks Jimmy . So appear to change name from Lovell to Lovatt. I will add with notes

COLLINS, SOPHIA blank.
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 88.

1901. 39, Addison Street, Wednesbury.
Elizabeth Lowe Head Widow Female 43 1858 Laundress Bradley, Staffordshire, England
Sophia Collins Daughter Single Female 20 1881 Laundress Coseley, Staffordshire, England
Ann Ames Boarder Widow Female 67 1834 Laundress Bradley, Staffordshire, England
Samuel Humpage Boarder Single Male 37 1864 Tube finisher Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England
William Harvery Boarder Single Male 22 1879 Furnace man

They were already on Bcc as Lovell

1891. 39, Addison Street, West Bromwich.
William Lowe. 44. Stoker. Wednesbury, Staffordshire.
Elizabeth Lowe. 33. Stoker. Wednesbury, Staffordshire.

Jimmy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:01 pm COLLINS, SOPHIA blank.
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 88

I don't think Eli was Sophia's father.

I think she was as per these Census records and fact when Sophia married she named him as father

1881 Census 2 Angle Street Sedgley Dudley Staffs.
Mary Lovatt Head 70 (wid) born Shropshire
Eli Lovatt son 39 Iron Worker born Dudley Worcs.
Elizabeth Collins visitor Labourer in Colliery born Bilston Staffs.
Sophia Collins visitor dau 8 mths born Sedgley Staffs.
Thomas Hinton lodger 42 Furnaceman in Iron Works born Sedgley Staffs.
Maria Hinton lodger Wife 40 born Dudley Worcs.
Note :- Eli seems to have dau with Elizabeth Collins but they do not marry . Daughter with him in 1891

1891 Census 12 Bridge Street Coseley Village Sedgley Dudley Staffs.
Eli Lovatt Head 44 Puddler born Dudley Worcs.
Kate Lovatt wife 51
Mary Lovatt Head 80 (wid)
Sophia Lovatt visitor dau 11 born Coseley Sedgley Staffs.
Rest born Dudley Worcs.
No trace of marriage to a Kate
Transcribed as Lovall on FMP