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				Completed ARC TBC Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:37 am
				by kdwoodie
				Here on BCC 
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Something doesn't seem right.
Marriage form Ancestry 
Name 	Joseph Parsons
Gender 	Male
Marital Status 	Single
Age 	23
Birth Date 	1841
Marriage Date 	7 Mar 1864
Marriage Place 	St. James Church Parish, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father 	
Edward Parsons
Spouse 	
Anna Downing
Father 	
James Downing
FHL Film Number 	1470599
Reference ID 	Item 1 p7 #13  
Is joseph the son of Joseph here 
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =667575436
Can anyone find births for children of Joseph and Anna ?
Is Ann Maria the daughter of James and Myra here 
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =439487370
HARROLD, ANN MARIA GLAZE
GRO Reference: 1874 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 162 
on Marriage her father is listed as Williamis this a mistake ?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:19 pm
				by Jimmy
				I can't see any children born with mother's maiden name Downing.
Emmanuel ???
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DEVENPORT, WILLIAM  DANIEL  	CARTWRIGHT.  
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 20.
PARSONS, DAVID    	ROPER.  
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 128.
PARSONS, DAVID    	ROLLASON.  
GRO Reference: 1870  S Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 11.
 
PARSONS, JOSEPH    	PARSONS.  
GRO Reference: 1873  J Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 13.
PARSONS, RICHARD    	CARTWRIGHT.  
GRO Reference: 1876  S Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 16.
PARSONS, VIOLET    	CARTWRIGHT.  
GRO Reference: 1879  M Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 26.
PARSONS, JOHN    	CARTWRIGHT.  
GRO Reference: 1881  D Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 1.
1871. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Maria	Parsons. Head. Widow. 69. Nail maker. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Joseph	Parsons.	Son. 26. Gas tube maker. 	Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Hannah	Parsons.	Wife. 27. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Emanuel	Parsons.	Son. 7. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
William	Parsons. 	Son. 4. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
David	Parsons.	Son. 1. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
1881. 109, Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Joseph	Parsons.	35. Gass tube welder. 	Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Hannah	Parsons.	 38. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Emanuel	Parsons.	Son.	 17. Gass tube screwer. 	Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Willy D	Parsons.	Son. 15. Gass tube screwer. 	Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
David	Parsons.	Son. 11. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Richard	Parsons.	Son.	 3. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Violet	Parsons.	Daughter	. 2. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Joseph	Parsons.	Son. 9. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:11 pm
				by kdwoodie
				Freereg
Worcestershire
Romsley
St Kenelm
Parish Register
Register entry number	62
Marriage date	04 Sep 1863
Joseph Parsons DEVENPORT 19 bachelor Gas worker Hasbury William KING Illegitimate
Hannah CARTWRIGHT 20 spinster Gorta Hill David CARTWRIGHT Iron worker
Witness1	Joseph WESTON
Witness2	Sarah Ann WESTON
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:24 pm
				by Jimmy
				1881.  Shenstone Street, Halesowen.
James	Harrold. 47. Nail maker. 	Stockton, Warwickshire.
Mira	Harrold. 39. Nail maker. 	Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Elizabeth	Harrold.	Daughter. 17. Nail maker. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Edward	Harrold.	Son. 14. Nail maker. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
William	Harrold.	Son. 10. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Bertha	Harrold.	Daughter. 8. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Annie	Harrold.	Daughter. 7. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Albert	Harrold.	Son. 5. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
HARROLD, EDWARD    	GLAZE.  
GRO Reference: 1866  D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE  Volume 06C  Page 173.
HARROLD, BERTHA    	GLAZE.  
GRO Reference: 1872  D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE  Volume 06C  Page 184.
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:41 pm
				by kdwoodie
				1851 Gorsty Hill
Emanuel Parsons 47 Head M Nail Factor
Maria Parsons 49 Wife M Nail Maker
Joseph P Devonport	7	Nephew Scholar
All Born Rowley Regis
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:57 pm
				by Jimmy
				1861. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Maria	Parsons. 	Head.	Widow. 	54. Nail factor. 	Rowley Regis.
Joseph	Partridge. 	Nephew. 	Unmarried. 		17. Carter.	Rowley Regis.
PARTRIDGE, JOSEPH   	PARSONS.  
GRO Reference: 1843  D Quarter in DUDLEY UNION  Volume 18  Page 289.
Death, 
PARSONS, EMANUEL    	52.  
GRO Reference: 1856  S Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 4.
Rowley Regis St Giles.
Burial date	22 Aug 1856.
Emanuel 	PARSONS. 
Person age	52.
Burial person abode	Gosty Hill.
Notes	Disease of the heart.
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:55 pm
				by Jimmy
				1841.  Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Emanuel	Parson.		35. Nailer.  Staffordshire. 
Mariah	Parson.	35. Staffordshire.
Ezeakiel	Willetts.	45. Nailer. Staffordshire.
John	Downing.	 25. Nailer. Staffordshire.
Benjamin	Lee. 20. Staffordshire.
Rowley Regis St Giles. 
Marriage date	07 Jul 1823. 
Emanuel PARSONS. 
Maria HACKET. 
Witness 1	Richard GAUNT.
Witness 2	Josiah PARSONS.
Notes	Groom & Bride sign X.
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:42 pm
				by grangers14
				Something doesn't seem right.
Marriage form Ancestry
Name Joseph Parsons
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Age 23
Birth Date 1841
Marriage Date 7 Mar 1864
Marriage Place St. James Church Parish, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father
Edward Parsons
Spouse
Anna Downing
Father
James Downing
FHL Film Number 1470599
Reference ID Item 1 p7 #13
Freereg
7th March 1864. St James, Dudley
Joseph Parsons, 23, B, Miner, Dudley, Edward Parsons, Miner
Anna Downing, 22, S, Dudley, James Downing, Engineer
Witness, J Watts, M Hampton
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:58 pm
				by Jimmy
				PARSONS, JOSEPH    	WOODALL.  
GRO Reference: 1840  J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION  Volume 18  Page 286.
Tipton St Martin.
Marriage date	08 May 1837.
Edward PARSONS. bachelor. Tipton.
Eliza WOODHALL. spinster. Tipton.
Witness 1	John CROMPTON.
Witness 2	John JONES.
Notes	Groom, bride and witness 1 sign X.
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:01 pm
				by Jimmy
				1851. Paradise, Dudley.
Edward	Parsons	Head	Married	Male	37	1814	Coal miner	Rowley, Staffordshire, England
Eliza	Parsons	Wife	Married	Female	39	1812	-	Worcestershire, England
Thomas	Parsons	Son	-	Male	13	1838	Coal miner	Worcestershire, England
Joseph	Parsons	Son	-	Male	11	1840	Coal miner	Worcestershire, England
Mary	Parsons	Daughter	-	Female	3	1848	-	Worcestershire, England
Sarah	Parsons	Daughter	-	Female	1	1850	-	Worcestershire, England
Joseph	Hickinbottom	Lodger	Married	Male	81	1770	Coal miner	Staffordshire, England
Ann	Hickinbottom	Lodger	Married	Female	70	1781	-	Rowley, Staffordshire, England
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:13 pm
				by Jimmy
				DOWNING, MARTHA    	LLOYD.  
GRO Reference: 1841  S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION  Volume 18  Page 224.
DOWNING, ANN    	LLOYD.  
GRO Reference: 1844  M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION  Volume 18  Page 279.
DOWNING, THOMAS    	LLOYD.  
GRO Reference: 1847  M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION  Volume 18  Page 275.
1851. Shavers End, Dudley.
Hannah	Lloyd	Head	Married	Female	55	1796	Washer woman	Staffordshire, England
Joseph	Lloyd	Son	Unmarried	Male	28	1823	Iron stone miner	Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Ann	Lloyd	Daughter	Unmarried	Female	16	1835	Nailer	Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Edward	Powell	Son-in-law	Married	Male	31	1820	Iron stone miner	Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Sarah	Powell	Wife	Married	Female	31	1820	Nailer	Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Martha	Downing	Daughter	-	Female	9	1842	Scholar	Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Ann	Downing	Daughter	-	Female	7	1844	Scholar	Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Thomas	Downing	Son	-	Male	4	1847	-	Dudley,
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:18 pm
				by grangers14
				I think we need more census to work it out. 
1871. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Maria Parsons, head, W, 69, Nail Maker,
Joseph, son, 26, Gas Tube Maker
Hannah, wife, 27,
Emmanuel, son, 7, 
William, son, 4,
David, son, 1
All born Rowley Regis
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:27 pm
				by Jimmy
				Dudley St Thomas. 
Marriage date	04 Nov 1850.
Edward POWELL. 31. widower. Miner. Dudley. John POWELL. Miner. deceased.
Sarah DOWNING. 30. widow. Dudley. John LLOYD. Nailer.
Witness 1	Ann LLOYD.
Witness 2	Isaac HICKMANS.
Sarah LLOYD first married Thomas DOWNING.
Sedgley All Saints.
Marriage date	29 Oct 1838.
Thomas DOWNING. full age. bachelor. Miner. Shaversend. Isaac DOWNING. Nailer. 
Sarah LLOYD. full age. spinster. Nailer. Shaversend. John LLOYD. Nailer.
Witness 1	Emanuel EVANS.
Witness 2	John NEWTON.
Notes	Groom, bride and witness 1 sign by mark.
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:34 pm
				by Jimmy
				grangers14 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:18 pm
I think we need more census to work it out. 
1871. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Maria Parsons, head, W, 69, Nail Maker,
Joseph, son, 26, Gas Tube Maker
Hannah, wife, 27,
Emmanuel, son, 7, 
William, son, 4,
David, son, 1
All born Rowley Regis
 
Which ones do you want.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold
				Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:48 pm
				by Jimmy
				It looks to me that Hannah Downing's father Was Thomas, not James.
1841. Salop Street, Dudley.
John	Lloyd	Male	44	1797	Worcestershire, England
Hannah	Lloyd	Female	43	1798	Worcestershire, England
Joseph	Lloyd	Male	14	1827	Worcestershire, England
Samuel	Lloyd	Male	13	1828	Worcestershire, England
Hannah	Lloyd	Female	11	1830	Worcestershire, England
Ann	Lloyd	Female	4	1837	Worcestershire, England
Thomas	Downing	Male	19	1822	Worcestershire, England
Sarah	Downing	Female	19	1822	Worcestershire, England