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Completed ARC TBC Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:37 am
by kdwoodie
Here on BCC https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =539740152

Something doesn't seem right.
Marriage form Ancestry
Name Joseph Parsons
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Age 23
Birth Date 1841
Marriage Date 7 Mar 1864
Marriage Place St. James Church Parish, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father
Edward Parsons
Spouse
Anna Downing
Father
James Downing
FHL Film Number 1470599
Reference ID Item 1 p7 #13

Is joseph the son of Joseph here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =667575436

Can anyone find births for children of Joseph and Anna ?

Is Ann Maria the daughter of James and Myra here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =439487370

HARROLD, ANN MARIA GLAZE
GRO Reference: 1874 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 162

on Marriage her father is listed as Williamis this a mistake ?

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:19 pm
by Jimmy
I can't see any children born with mother's maiden name Downing.

Emmanuel ???
.
DEVENPORT, WILLIAM DANIEL CARTWRIGHT.
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 20.

PARSONS, DAVID ROPER.
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 128.

PARSONS, DAVID ROLLASON.
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 11.

PARSONS, JOSEPH PARSONS.
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 13.

PARSONS, RICHARD CARTWRIGHT.
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 16.

PARSONS, VIOLET CARTWRIGHT.
GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 26.

PARSONS, JOHN CARTWRIGHT.
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 1.

1871. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Maria Parsons. Head. Widow. 69. Nail maker. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Joseph Parsons. Son. 26. Gas tube maker. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Hannah Parsons. Wife. 27. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Emanuel Parsons. Son. 7. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
William Parsons. Son. 4. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
David Parsons. Son. 1. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.

1881. 109, Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Parsons. 35. Gass tube welder. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Hannah Parsons. 38. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Emanuel Parsons. Son. 17. Gass tube screwer. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Willy D Parsons. Son. 15. Gass tube screwer. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
David Parsons. Son. 11. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Richard Parsons. Son. 3. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Violet Parsons. Daughter . 2. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Joseph Parsons. Son. 9. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:11 pm
by kdwoodie
Freereg
Worcestershire
Romsley
St Kenelm
Parish Register
Register entry number 62
Marriage date 04 Sep 1863
Joseph Parsons DEVENPORT 19 bachelor Gas worker Hasbury William KING Illegitimate
Hannah CARTWRIGHT 20 spinster Gorta Hill David CARTWRIGHT Iron worker
Witness1 Joseph WESTON
Witness2 Sarah Ann WESTON

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:24 pm
by Jimmy
1881. Shenstone Street, Halesowen.
James Harrold. 47. Nail maker. Stockton, Warwickshire.
Mira Harrold. 39. Nail maker. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Elizabeth Harrold. Daughter. 17. Nail maker. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Edward Harrold. Son. 14. Nail maker. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
William Harrold. Son. 10. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Bertha Harrold. Daughter. 8. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Annie Harrold. Daughter. 7. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Albert Harrold. Son. 5. Halesowen, Worcestershire.

HARROLD, EDWARD GLAZE.
GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 173.

HARROLD, BERTHA GLAZE.
GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 184.

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:41 pm
by kdwoodie
1851 Gorsty Hill
Emanuel Parsons 47 Head M Nail Factor
Maria Parsons 49 Wife M Nail Maker
Joseph P Devonport 7 Nephew Scholar
All Born Rowley Regis

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:57 pm
by Jimmy
1861. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Maria Parsons. Head. Widow. 54. Nail factor. Rowley Regis.
Joseph Partridge. Nephew. Unmarried. 17. Carter. Rowley Regis.

PARTRIDGE, JOSEPH PARSONS.
GRO Reference: 1843 D Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 289.

Death,
PARSONS, EMANUEL 52.
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 4.

Rowley Regis St Giles.
Burial date 22 Aug 1856.
Emanuel PARSONS.
Person age 52.
Burial person abode Gosty Hill.
Notes Disease of the heart.

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:55 pm
by Jimmy
1841. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Emanuel Parson. 35. Nailer. Staffordshire.
Mariah Parson. 35. Staffordshire.
Ezeakiel Willetts. 45. Nailer. Staffordshire.
John Downing. 25. Nailer. Staffordshire.
Benjamin Lee. 20. Staffordshire.

Rowley Regis St Giles.
Marriage date 07 Jul 1823.
Emanuel PARSONS.
Maria HACKET.
Witness 1 Richard GAUNT.
Witness 2 Josiah PARSONS.
Notes Groom & Bride sign X.

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:42 pm
by grangers14
Something doesn't seem right.
Marriage form Ancestry
Name Joseph Parsons
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Age 23
Birth Date 1841
Marriage Date 7 Mar 1864
Marriage Place St. James Church Parish, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father
Edward Parsons
Spouse
Anna Downing
Father
James Downing
FHL Film Number 1470599
Reference ID Item 1 p7 #13

Freereg
7th March 1864. St James, Dudley
Joseph Parsons, 23, B, Miner, Dudley, Edward Parsons, Miner
Anna Downing, 22, S, Dudley, James Downing, Engineer
Witness, J Watts, M Hampton

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:58 pm
by Jimmy
PARSONS, JOSEPH WOODALL.
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 286.

Tipton St Martin.
Marriage date 08 May 1837.
Edward PARSONS. bachelor. Tipton.
Eliza WOODHALL. spinster. Tipton.
Witness 1 John CROMPTON.
Witness 2 John JONES.
Notes Groom, bride and witness 1 sign X.

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:01 pm
by Jimmy
1851. Paradise, Dudley.
Edward Parsons Head Married Male 37 1814 Coal miner Rowley, Staffordshire, England
Eliza Parsons Wife Married Female 39 1812 - Worcestershire, England
Thomas Parsons Son - Male 13 1838 Coal miner Worcestershire, England
Joseph Parsons Son - Male 11 1840 Coal miner Worcestershire, England
Mary Parsons Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Worcestershire, England
Sarah Parsons Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Worcestershire, England
Joseph Hickinbottom Lodger Married Male 81 1770 Coal miner Staffordshire, England
Ann Hickinbottom Lodger Married Female 70 1781 - Rowley, Staffordshire, England

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:13 pm
by Jimmy
DOWNING, MARTHA LLOYD.
GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 224.

DOWNING, ANN LLOYD.
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 279.


DOWNING, THOMAS LLOYD.
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 275.

1851. Shavers End, Dudley.
Hannah Lloyd Head Married Female 55 1796 Washer woman Staffordshire, England
Joseph Lloyd Son Unmarried Male 28 1823 Iron stone miner Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Ann Lloyd Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 Nailer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Edward Powell Son-in-law Married Male 31 1820 Iron stone miner Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Powell Wife Married Female 31 1820 Nailer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Martha Downing Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Ann Downing Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Thomas Downing Son - Male 4 1847 - Dudley,

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:18 pm
by grangers14
I think we need more census to work it out.

1871. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Maria Parsons, head, W, 69, Nail Maker,
Joseph, son, 26, Gas Tube Maker
Hannah, wife, 27,
Emmanuel, son, 7,
William, son, 4,
David, son, 1
All born Rowley Regis

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:27 pm
by Jimmy
Dudley St Thomas.
Marriage date 04 Nov 1850.
Edward POWELL. 31. widower. Miner. Dudley. John POWELL. Miner. deceased.
Sarah DOWNING. 30. widow. Dudley. John LLOYD. Nailer.
Witness 1 Ann LLOYD.
Witness 2 Isaac HICKMANS.

Sarah LLOYD first married Thomas DOWNING.

Sedgley All Saints.
Marriage date 29 Oct 1838.
Thomas DOWNING. full age. bachelor. Miner. Shaversend. Isaac DOWNING. Nailer.
Sarah LLOYD. full age. spinster. Nailer. Shaversend. John LLOYD. Nailer.
Witness 1 Emanuel EVANS.
Witness 2 John NEWTON.
Notes Groom, bride and witness 1 sign by mark.

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:34 pm
by Jimmy
grangers14 wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:18 pm I think we need more census to work it out.

1871. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Maria Parsons, head, W, 69, Nail Maker,
Joseph, son, 26, Gas Tube Maker
Hannah, wife, 27,
Emmanuel, son, 7,
William, son, 4,
David, son, 1
All born Rowley Regis
Which ones do you want.

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:48 pm
by Jimmy
It looks to me that Hannah Downing's father Was Thomas, not James.

1841. Salop Street, Dudley.
John Lloyd Male 44 1797 Worcestershire, England
Hannah Lloyd Female 43 1798 Worcestershire, England
Joseph Lloyd Male 14 1827 Worcestershire, England
Samuel Lloyd Male 13 1828 Worcestershire, England
Hannah Lloyd Female 11 1830 Worcestershire, England
Ann Lloyd Female 4 1837 Worcestershire, England
Thomas Downing Male 19 1822 Worcestershire, England
Sarah Downing Female 19 1822 Worcestershire, England