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Thomas Eden about 1888 not on BCC, K.I.A.

https://menandmemorialsofdudley.co.uk/b ... den-thomas

Thomas Eden was born in Halesowen and was living in 1914 with his wife, Elsie, at 49 Windmill Hill, Cradley. He was a coal miner at Harper and Moores and, when he was informed that his brother, George, had been killed in action on the Aisne in 1914, he volunteered for war service. He enlisted in the Royal Engineers in November 1915 and was posted to the 257th Tunnelling Company. This unit was in the Neuve Chapelle area and engaged in the highly dangerous activities associated with mining under enemy lines. In July 1916 he was gassed and returned home until January 1917. He went into the front line again in late March and died from drowning on the 9th April when the gallery he was working in was flooded. Sapper Thomas Eden was 29 years of age and is buried in the Rue du Bacquerot Cemetery at Laventie (III A 16) and commemorated on the Cradley and Halesowen Memorials. His brother, George, was a regular soldier who was killed on the Aisne on the 21st September 1914.

Marriage looked up by Rockyfowler, thanks Rocky.

6 Feb 1910 St Peter Cradley.
Thomas EDEN. 22. Bachelor. Collier. Colley Lane. Father Thomas Eden. Collier.
Elsie CRADDOCK. 19. Spinster. Colley Gate. Father William Craddock. Bricklayer.
After Banns Both Signed.
Wit; Arthur Hart / Rosalie Parsons.

1911. Shelton Lane Hawne Halesowen.
Thomas Eden. 23. Miner rope runner. Halesowen Worcs.
Elsie Eden. 20. Old Hill, Staffs.
William Tho S Eden. Son. 0. 1911. Hawne, Halesowen.

1921. Dingleys Hotel Moor Street, Birmingham.
Elsie Eden. 30. Widow. General Domestic Servant. Old Hill, Staffordshire.

1921. 49 Windmill Hill, Cradley.
William Cradock. 51. Bricklayer. Worcestershire.
Flora Cradock. 49. Old Hill, Staffordshire.
Joseph Cradock. Son. 23. Bricklayer. Cradley, Worcestershire.
Rowland Barnesley Cradock. Son. 19. Bricklayer. Cradley, Worcestershire
Esther Cradock. Daughter. 17. Pen Blank Press Worker. Cradley, Worcestershire
Rosabelle Cradock. Daughter. 14. Pen Blank Splitter Press Worker. Cradley, Worcestershire.
Katharina Cradock. Daughter. 11. Cradley, Worcestershire.
William Thomas Eden. Grandson. 11. Halesowen, Worcestershire.

EDEN, WILLIAM THOMAS CRADDOCK.
GRO Reference: 1910 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 131.

Also Thomas's brother George Eden about 1884, K.I.A.

George Eden was the son of Thomas and Mary Eden and attended Halesowen C of E School. He was a regular soldier, possibly in the Reserve, with the Worcesters in 1914. He was well known in Halesowen as a Scout Leader and joined the 3rd Battalion with the British Expeditionary Force. They were at Mons on the 23rd August to face the first German advance and took part in the gruelling retreat which took the army back to the Marne. The German forces were forced to a halt and then obliged by to retreat to the Aisne where several important actions were fought. In one of these on the wooded heights above the river a contested German attack led to many casualties. Among those killed in action on the 21st September was Lance Corporal George Eden. He is commemorated on the La Ferté-sous-Jouarre, Halesowen and Halesowen C of E School Memorials. His brother, Thomas, enlisted in the Royal Engineers and died on the 9th April 1917.

1891. Bloomfield Street, Hawne.
Thomas Eden. 35. Coal miner. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Jane Eden. 33. Quarry Bank, Staffordshire.
John Eden. Son. 13. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Amy Eden. Daughter . 11. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Lily Eden Daughter . 9. Wombwell, Yorkshire.
George Eden. Son. 7. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Francis Eden. Daughter. 5. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Thomas Eden. Son. 3. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Joseph Eden. Son. 1. Halesowen, Worcestershire.

1901. Bloomfield Street, Hawne.
Thomas Eden. 46. Coal miner hewer. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Mary J Eden. 42. Quarry Bank, Staffordshire.
George Eden. Son. 17. Coal miner loader. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Francis M Eden. Daughter. 15. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Thomas Eden. Son. 13. Tube socket counter. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Joseph Eden. Son. 11. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
William Eden. Son. 9. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Mary J Eden. Daughter . 7. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Emily Eden. Daughter . 4. Halesowen, Worcestershire.
Henry Eden. Son. 1. Halesowen, Worcestershire.

EDEN, GEORGE MATTOCKS.
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 170.

EDEN, THOMAS MATTOCKS .
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 145.

Dudley St Andrew (Netherton).
Marriage date 19 Mar 1876.
Thomas HADEN. Minor. Netherton. bachelor. Carter. John HADEN. Shoemaker.
Mary Jane MATTOCKS. Minor. Netherton. spinster. no father.
Witness 1 John MATTOCKS.
Witness 2 Phoebe Jane PEARSON.
Notes Bride's father is deceased, no name given.

Mary Jane Mattock's family.

MATTUX, MARY JANE MEESE.
GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 212.

Sedgley All Saints.
Marriage date 14 Feb 1853.
John MATTOX. 24. bachelor. Miner. Can Lane. William MATTOX. Screw forger.
Ann MEESE. 21. spinster. Brockmoor. William MEESE. Glass Cutter.
Witness 1 James NETH.
Witness 2 Susanna DICKIN.
Notes Groom, Bride & Witnesses sign X.

1861. Cressett Lane, Kingswinford.
John Mattocks. 33. Coal miner. Sedgley, Staffordshire.
Ann Mattocks. 29. Kingswinford, Staffordshire.
William Mattocks. Son. 7. Kingswinford, Staffordshire.
John Mattocks. Son. 5. Kingswinford, Staffordshire.
Mary Jane Mattocks. Daughter. 2. Kingswinford, Staffordshire.
Joseph Mattocks. Son. 6 months. Kingswinford, Staffordshire.

John Mattocks died,

Quarry Bank Christ Church.
Burial date 12 Feb 1865.
John MADDOCKS.
Person age 37.
Burial person abode Quarry Bank.

Ann Mattocks remarried,

Quarry Bank Christ Church.
Marriage date 17 Oct 1867.
Joseph SMITH. 40. widower. Miner. Quarry Bank. John SMITH. Furnace Man.
Anne MATTOCK. 34. widow. Quarry Bank. William MEES. Glass Maker.
Witness 1 Benjamin HAYWOOD.
Witness 2 Sarah HAYWOOD.

1871. Merry Hill, Kingswinford.
Joseph Smith. 40. Miner. Foresh of Dean, Gloucestershire.
Ann Smith. 38. Kingswinford, Staffordshire.
Sarah Smith. Daughter . 14. Kingswinford, Staffordshire.
Jane Smith. Daughter. 9. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
Esau Smith. Son. 2. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
Moses Smith. Son. 1. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
William Maddock. Son-in-law. 17. Miner. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
John Maddock. Son-in-law. 15. Miner. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
Mary Jane Maddock. Daughter-in-law. 12. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
Joseph Maddock. Son-in-law. 10. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
Jemima Maddock. Daughter-in-law. 5. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.

SMITH, SARAH ANN CUTLER.
GRO Reference: 1858 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 151.

SMITH, JANE CUTLER.
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 186.

Halesowen St John the Baptist.
Marriage date 3 Dec 1855.
Joseph SMITH. 21. bachelor. chainmaker. Hasbury. William SMITH. labourer.
Elizabeth CUTTLER. 19. spinster. nailer. Hasbury. Thomas CUTTLER. labourer.
Witness 1 Edward GROVE.
Witness 2 Ellen CUTTLER.

Joseph Smith and Elizabeth Cutler are on BCC,

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=654072

I've started to add Jimmy but I've got a problem with my computer and It's taking me far too long

Perhaps someone will add the rest

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =122542922

Jimmy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:47 pm Ann Mattocks remarried,

Quarry Bank Christ Church.
Marriage date 17 Oct 1867.
Joseph SMITH. 40. widower. Miner. Quarry Bank. John SMITH. Furnace Man.
Anne MATTOCK. 34. widow. Quarry Bank. William MEES. Glass Maker.
Witness 1 Benjamin HAYWOOD.
Witness 2 Sarah HAYWOOD.

1871. Merry Hill, Kingswinford.
Joseph Smith. 40. Miner. Foresh of Dean, Gloucestershire.
Ann Smith. 38. Kingswinford, Staffordshire.
Sarah Smith. Daughter . 14. Kingswinford, Staffordshire.
Jane Smith. Daughter. 9. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
Esau Smith. Son. 2. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
Moses Smith. Son. 1. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
William Maddock. Son-in-law. 17. Miner. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
John Maddock. Son-in-law. 15. Miner. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
Mary Jane Maddock. Daughter-in-law. 12. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
Joseph Maddock. Son-in-law. 10. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.
Jemima Maddock. Daughter-in-law. 5. Kingswinfd, Staffordshire.

SMITH, SARAH ANN CUTLER.
GRO Reference: 1858 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 151.

SMITH, JANE CUTLER.
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 186.

Halesowen St John the Baptist.
Marriage date 3 Dec 1855.
Joseph SMITH. 21. bachelor. chainmaker. Hasbury. William SMITH. labourer.
Elizabeth CUTTLER. 19. spinster. nailer. Hasbury. Thomas CUTTLER. labourer.
Witness 1 Edward GROVE.
Witness 2 Ellen CUTTLER.

Joseph Smith and Elizabeth Cutler are on BCC,

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=654072

I have added most but have got to this and Josephs fathers don't match so is it the correct Joseph

Does this look correct ?

Joseph Smith
Ancestry Image
St.Mary Oldswinford
26 Sept 1865
Joseph Smith 38 Bachelor Miner The Lye John Smith Forgeman
Mary Curtis 43 Widow The Lye Edward Hudson Miner
Wit 1 Ann Jenkins X
Wit 2 Thomas Cogzell
Joseph and Mary marked X

1861 Quarry Bank Rose Hill
Joseph Smith 33 Head Mar Miner Born Westbury G;oucestershire
Mary Smith 39 Wife Mar Miners wife Born Dudley
John Fox 17 Son Unm Miner Born Dudley
Hannah Curtis 12 Daughter Born Dudley
Sarah Smith 3 Daughter Born Oldbury
Thomas Smith 1 Son Born Dudley

1881 Back of Church Tavern Quarry Bank Kingswinford
Joseph Smith 50 Head Mar Cola Mimer Born Forest of Dean
Ann Smith 48 Wife Mar Born Coalbournbrook Worcester
Jane Smith 19 Daughter Born Quary Bank
Esau Smith 13 Son Scholar Born Quarry Bank
Isiah Smith 6 Son Scholar Born Quarry Bank
Clara Eden Smith 6 Grandchild Scholar Born Quarry Bank

1891 Church Lane Halesowen
Ann Smith 58 Head Wid Herbalist? Born Stourbridge
Jemima Smith 25 Daughter S Button Polisher Born Quarry Bank (Mattocks on image)
Isaiah Smith 16 Son S Cola Miner bOnr Quarry Bank
Ann Maria Smith 13 Daughter S Born Quarry Bank

Mary Hudson
Parents here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=654344
Mary is on census but not added to BCC
Freereg
1st Marriage
Tipton
St Martin
Parish Register
Register entry number 314
Marriage date 27 Jun 1842
John FOX minor Miner Dudley William FOX Blacksmith
Mary HUDSON minor Dudley Edward HUDSON Furnaceman
Witness1 Joseph HUDSON
Witness2 Sarah HUDSON
Notes Groom, Bride & both Witnesses sign X

Freereg
2nd Marriage
Tipton
St Martin Parish Register
Register entry number 260
Marriage date 02 Oct 1848
William CURTIS full age widower Miner
Mary FOX full age widow Edward HUDSON Miner
Witness1 Joseph HUDSON
Witness2 Sarah HUDSON
Notes Groom, Bride & both Witnesses sign X


1851 Sweet Turf Dudley
Mary Curtiss 29 Head Wid
John Curtiss 6 Son
Hannah Curtiss 2 Daughter
All Born Dudley

Dudley
St Thomas
Unspecified
Register entry number 866
Burial date 11 Sep 1843
Burial person forename John
Burial person surname FOX
Person age 21
Burial person abode Netherton
Notes Died 8 Sep

FOX, JOHN HUTSON
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 246

Dudley
St Thomas
Unspecified
Register entry number 138
Birth date 17 Jun 1843
Baptism date 07 Apr 1844
Person forename John
Person sex M
Father forename John
Mother forename Mary
Father surname FOX
Person abode Netherton
Father occupation Miner

CURTIS, HANNAH HUTSON
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 310

No birth found for Sarah Smith

SMITH, THOMAS WILLIAM HUTSON
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 121

SMITH, MARY JANE HUDSON
GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 214


SMITH, ESAN MEESE
GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 220

SMITH, MOSES MATTUX
GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 206

SMITH, ISAIAH MEESE
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 254

SMITH, ANN MARIA MEESE
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 223

CURTIS, WILLIAM 26
GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 198

Dudley
St Andrew (Netherton)
Unspecified
Burial date 04 Mar 1866
Burial person forename Mary
Burial person surname SMITH
Person age 44
Burial person abode Kingswinford

Name Ann Smith
Age 64
Estimated Birth Year abt 1832
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place Stourbridge, Worcestershire, United Kingdom
Death Date Jun 1896
Inferred Death Place Worcestershire, United Kingdom
Volume 6c
Page 82

That all looks correct to me.

All added jimmy

Thanks kdw completed.

Thanks for taking over kdw