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Alfred Hall born about 1854. on BCC.

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=649174

Married Myra Hackett not Ellen Dingley.

14 Sept 1874 St John Halesowen.
Alfred Hall 19 bach nailer Boro.....no father is on certif.
Mira Hackett 20 spinster Boro ....no father is on certif.
banns.
X both.
Wit - James Clark X Elizabeth Sawyer.

HALL, ALFRED BLANK.
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 142.

HACKETT, MIRA BLANK.
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 142.

1881. Hollies Yard, Birmingham Street, Halesowen.
Alfred Hall. 26. Fruiterer. Halesowen.
Mira Hall. Wife. 26. Wife of fruiterer. Halesowen.
Elizabeth Hall. Daughter. 6. Scholar. Halesowen.
Sarah Hall. Daughter. 4. Halesowen.
Annie Hall. 2. Halesowen.

1891. Birmingham Street, Halesowen.
Alfred Hall. 36. Fruiter. Halesowen.
Myra Hall. Wife. 37. Halesowen
Lizzie Hall. Daughter . 16. Halesowen.
Sarah Hall. Daughter . 14. Halesowen.
Annie Hall. Daughter. 13. Halesowen.
William Hall. Son. 10. Halesowen.
Lavinia Hall. Daughter. 3. Halesowen.
Mary Hall. Daughter . 0. Halesowen.

1901. Mount Street, Hasbury.
Myra Hall. Widow. 46. Halesowen.
Sarah Hall. Daughter. Single. 24. Halesowen.
William Hall. Son. Single. 19. Fruiterer. Halesowen.
Lavinia Hall. Daughter. 13. Halesowen.
Gerty Hall. Daughter . 10. Halesowen.
Edith Hall. Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Halesowen, Worcestershire, England

HALL, SARAH HACKETT.
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 182.

HALL, ELIZABETH HACKETT.
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 181.

HALL, HANNAH HACKETT.
GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 181.

HALL, LAVINIA HACKETT.
GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 155.

HALL, EDITH HACKETT.
GRO Reference: 1896 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 147.

Died.
HALL, ALFRED age 43.
GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 94.

So who is this then and where is marriage

1881 Census New Street Halesowen, Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Edmund Dingley Head 45 Nail Maker born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Mary Ann Dingley Wife 40 Nail Maker born Hill, Worcs.
Mary Dingley Dau 13 Nurse Dom. born Halesowen, Worcs.
Alfred Hall Son-in-law 23 Fruiter born Halesowen Worcs.
Ellen Hall Dau 21 born Halesowen Worcs.

There are 2 marriages for Ellen are they the same Alfred ?

Staffordshire
Cradley Heath
St Luke
Parish Register
Register entry number 406
Marriage date 28 Dec 1879
Alfred BAGLEY 20 bachelor fruiterer Halesowen
Ellen DINGLE 20 spinster Spring Hill Edmund DINGLE nailer
Witness1 David SAWYER
Witness2 Louisa SHEPHERD


Staffordshire
Cradley Heath
St Luke
Parish Register
Register entry number 14
Marriage date 16 Mar 1884
Alfred HALL 24 bachelor fruiterer Hasbury John HALL labourer
Ellen DINGLE 21 spinster Hasbury Edmund DINGLE nailer
Witness1 Thomas Hingley PARSONS
Witness2 Sarah Ann PARSONS

Sorry Mumbles,

Marriage date 16 Mar 1884.
Alfred HALL. 24.bachelor fruiterer. Hasbury. John HALL. Labourer.
Ellen DINGLE. 21. spinster. Hasbury. Edmund DINGLE. nailer.
Witness 1 Thomas Hingley PARSONS.
Witness 2 Sarah Ann PARSONS.

kdwoodie wrote:There are 2 marriages for Ellen are they the same Alfred ?

Staffordshire
Cradley Heath
St Luke
Parish Register
Register entry number 406
Marriage date 28 Dec 1879
Alfred BAGLEY 20 bachelor fruiterer Halesowen
Ellen DINGLE 20 spinster Spring Hill Edmund DINGLE nailer
Witness1 David SAWYER
Witness2 Louisa SHEPHERD


Staffordshire
Cradley Heath
St Luke
Parish Register
Register entry number 14
Marriage date 16 Mar 1884
Alfred HALL 24 bachelor fruiterer Hasbury John HALL labourer
Ellen DINGLE 21 spinster Hasbury Edmund DINGLE nailer
Witness1 Thomas Hingley PARSONS
Witness2 Sarah Ann PARSONS

Looks the same people to me. looks like Alfred married under Bagley first.

If you look at BCC entry
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =639322560
You will see 1871 High Street Halesowen
James Bagley HD 24 Green Grocer
All born Halesowen
Ann Bagley Wife 24
Mary Bagley DA 2
Harry Bagley Son 2 months
William Hall Brother 16 Green Grocers Assistant
Alfred Hall Brother 13 Green Grocer's Assistant

but correct entry should be :-
1871 Census Hollies Yard / High Street Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
James Bagley Head 24 Greengrocer
Ann Bagley wife 24
Mary Bagley sdau 2
Harry Bagley son 2 mths.
William Hall lodger 16 Greengrocer's Asst.
Alfred Hall lodger 13 Greengrocer's Asst.
All born Halesowen Worcs.

As I have added here :-
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =849869930

It looks to me that the Alfred Hall who married Myra Hackett is this one, with mother Elizabeth Hall,

HALL, ALFRED blank.
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 142.

All the other children born after 1859 have mothers maiden name Hall.

HALL, SARAH blank.
GRO Reference: 1854 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 06C Page 159.

HALL, WILLIAM blank.
GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 148.

Halesowen St John the Baptist.
Marriage date 10 Sep 1859.
Samuel TETHER. 24. bachelor. nailer. Boro. Thomas TETHER. labourer.
Elizabeth HALL. 25. spinster. nailer. Boro. William GRIFFITHS. labourer.
Witness 1 Jannas? TETHER.
Witness 2 Jane TETHER.

1861. New Road, Halesowen.
Samuel Sether. 26. Labourer at iron work. Halesowen.
Elizabeth Sether. Wife. 27. Nail maker. Halesowen.
Sarah Sether. Daughter. Unmarried. 8. 1853. Scholar. Halesowen.
Alfred Sether. Son. 6. Scholar. Halesowen.
William Sether. Son. 3. Scholar. Halesowen.
Elizabeth Sether. Daughter. 1. 1860. Halesowen.


1871. Rumbow, Halesowen.
Samuel Tether. 39. Iron warehouse man. Halesowen.
Elizabeth Tether. Wife. 38. Nailmaker. Halesowen.
Sarah Tether. Daughter . 18. Nailmaker. Halesowen.
Alfred Tether. Son. 16. Nailmaker. Halesowen.
William Tether. Son. 14. Nailmaker. Halesowen.
Lizzey Tether. Daughter . 12. Scholar. Halesowen.
George Tether. Son. 9. Scholar. Halesowen.
Polly Tether. Daughter . 7. Scholar. Halesowen.
Samuel Tether. Son. 4. Halesowen.
Martha Tether. Daughter. 2. Halesowen.
Thomas Tether. Son. 0. Halesowen.

Samuel Tether and Elizabeth Hall are on BCC,

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=649233

With This Alfred Hall
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =905625613

I have added Census Details and two marriages 1) As Alfred Bagley 2) As Alfred Hall
But have not connected to Father and Mother

mumbles wrote:With This Alfred Hall
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =905625613

I have added Census Details and two marriages 1) As Alfred Bagley 2) As Alfred Hall
But have not connected to Father and Mother

Is parents were John Hall and Mary Bagley.

Jimmy are you going to disconnect John Hall and Mary Bagley from Alfred Hall who married Myra Hackett or shall I do it ?

I don't have the permission to add or remove anything on BCC, so could you see to it Mumbles.

Surprised you cannot makes entries as you have solved thousands of queries on this web site

I have amended and added everything .
I have left Tether children as Tether as first three were GRO registered as Hall born out of wedlock and Alfred Tether reverted to Hall upon marriage. I have put on with notes

Thanks Mumbles for adding it can now be archived.