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I have added missing Census Records for this William Tromans and corrected marriage record as it was noted as St. Giles and correct marriage at St. John Halesowen Added
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =992308855

I have Added Son John Tromans marriage
Freereg marriage 03 Jul 1885 St. Giles, Rowley Regis Staffordshire
John Tromans Wid Chain Maker Cradley Heath father William Tromans Warehouseman
Margaret Hodgetts Sp Old Hill father Benjamin Hodgetts Blacksmith
Witnesses :- Joseph Hodgetts and Hannah Tromans

It notes that his father was a Warehouseman which ties up with William Above but it notes he was a Widow ..

I think he was John Tromans who married Eliza Nock here but not son of Barzillai Tromans who married Emily Parsons ( nee Grainger)
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =144950060

Something is wrong so needs disconnecting and sorting .

possible marriage for John Tromans son of Barzallia Tromans other than one to Eliza Nock

TROMAN John BLUNN Eliza 1878 Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/008/228

Here is Eliza Blunn
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =504101006

and daughter Hannah Tromans mother Dunn was born 1881 Dudley

and Eliza Tromans died aged 24 1882 or 1883 aged 25 Dudley

1881 Census No No. Griffin Street Dudley Worcs.
John Tromans 23 Coal Miner
Eliza Tromans wife 22
All born Dudley Worcs.
is on bcc attached to wrong John Tromans

I will sticky this and flag for Grangers 14 to see and advise.

I will make out details of what I think is correct which might help but will be later today

Notwithstanding what is on BCC

I think Lines of descent for Two John Tromans
are as Follows

1) John Tromans born 1859 Cradley Heath Chain Maker
Father William Tromans born 1838 RR Warehouseman
married 1) Eliza Nock born 1859 in 1881 at St. John The Baptist Halesowen
Had dau Eliza Tromans born 1883 mother Nock ( on 1891 Census with Grandparents on 1901 Census with John and 2nd wife)
Eliza probably died 1883 Dudley
John then married 2) Margaret Hodgetts 1n 1885 as a Widower

2) John Tromans born 1858 Dudley Coal Miner
Father Barzillai Tromans born 1832 RR
married 1) Eliza Blunn born 1858 Netherton worcs. dau of Samuel Blunn born 1830 Beoley Worcs. ( on BCC)
Married at 1878 St. James Dudley ( do not have this marriage)
Daughter Hannah Tromans mother Blunn was born 1881 Dudley
Eliza then died 1882 Dudley
and then John Tromans married 2) Emily Grainger born 1855 Netherton Worcs. widow of Jabez Parsons

On bcc it shows Eliza Nock married John Tromans son of Barzillai Tromans and this is wrong looking at Marriage Record

Hope this explains
Problem was when orginally recorded There were two John Tromans who married an Eliza and all were about same age. and the two Eliza died about same time and the Two John Tromans remarried.
The Marriage records are now available and I noticed errors . One record the marriage to Eliza Blunn needs look up

Ancestry,

John Troman. 20. single.Barthillai Troman.
Eliza Blunn. 19. single. Samuel Blunn.
Marriage Date 2 Jun 1878.
Marriage Place Dudley, Worcester.

Thanks Jimmy that is missing marriage

I was going to try disconnecting Eliza Nock but I've run out of time

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =875198766

The real truth is I got cold feet and didn't want to mess it all up!

I was the same mallosa

.....JO!!!!

Just leave it for now, I will look next week, it's no problem.
We have company over at the moment so I haven't got time to go through.
Sorry.

Think ive sorted it but can you please check

John and Eliza Nock here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =126143579

John and Eliza Blunn here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =653947090

Looks fine to me Kaye!

Nice one

Checked and all correct thanks to kdwoodie for sorting as was quite mixed up and thanks to others for their help