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*TBC Archive in 24 hrs*Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:23 pm
by warmbells
Hi,

I'm starting to look up my ancestors, so far I have got for Gresty (maternal)

1861 Census
John Gresty Head 25 (1836)abt Born Stretton, Cheshire Stone Mason
Ann Wife 20 (1841)abt Born Warrington, Lancashire
David Son 1m (1860) Born Warrington, Lancashire


1871 Census


1881 Census
John Gresty Head 47 (1834) Born Stretton, Cheshire Stone Mason
Ann Wife 44 (1837) Born Warrington, Lancashire
David Son 21 (1860) Born Bolton, Lancashire Plasterer
Mary J Daug 17 (1864) Born Warrington, Lancashire Fustain Cutter
Thomas Son 16 (1865) Born Liverpool, Lancashire General Labourer
John Son 14 (1867) Born Widnes, Lancashire General Labourer
Joseph Son 12 (1869) Born ??, America Scholar
Lizzie Daug 11 (1870) Born ??, America Scholar
Sarah Daug 9 (1872) Born ??, America Scholar
George Son 8 (1873) Born ??, America Scholar
Elizabeth Daug 1 (1880) Born Warrington, Lancashire
255 Winwick Road, Warrington, Lancashire


1891 Census


1901 Census
Thomas Gresty Head 36 (1865) Born Liverpool, Lancashire Stone Mason
Mary Ann Wife 33 (1868) Born St Helens, Lancashire Fustain Cutter Nee Webb Wed Dec 1887
Joseph Son 12 (1889) Born Warrington, Lancashire Scholar
Sarah Elizbth Daug 9 (1892) Born Warrington, Lancashire Scholar
John Son 8 (1893) Born Leigh, Lancashire Scholar
William Henry Son 4 (1897) Born Warrington, Lancashire
Ethel May Daug 2 (1899) Born Warrington, Lancashire
Thomas B Son 1 (1900) Born Warrington, Lancashire
Elizabeth Webb S I L 30 (1870) Born Widnes, Lancashire General Servant
80 Ellesmere Street, Patricroft, Eccles, Lancashire


1911 Census
Joseph Gresty Head 22 (1889) Born Warrington, Lancashire Hydraulic Crane Driver
Annie Holland Wife 21 (1890) Born Worksop, Nottinghamshire Wed Sep 1910 Barton upon Irwell
Elizzebeth Webb Aunt 40 (1871) Born Widnes, lamcashire General Domestic Servant
Annie Daug 1m (1911) Born Patricroft, Lancashire
15 Barton Grove, Patricroft, Eccles, Lancashire

and for Bramwell (paternal)
1861 Census
John Bramwell Head 38 (1823) Born , Staffordshire Conqueering Smith Employing 3 men & 3 boys
Grace Wife 43 (1818) Born Ramsbotton, Lancashire
Robert Son 17 (1844) Born Warrington, Lancashire Engineer Buxton Baths
Thomas Son 15 (1846) abt Born Bury, Lancashire Apprentice Blackmith
Margaret Daug 12 (1849) Born Droylesden, Lancashire ???? Girl Buttery
Grace Daug 10 (1851) Born Manchester, Lancashire Scholar
Hannah Daug 7 (1854) Born Buxton, Derbyshire Scholar
John Son 1 (1860) Born Buxton, Derbyshire
John Needham Board 42 (1819) Born Castleton, Derbyshire Domestic Coachman
Thomas Daud Board 28 (1833) Born Cumberland Gas Works Manager
Stable Top Room, Chapel-en-le-Frith, Buxton, Derbyshire


1871 Census


1881 Census
Thomas Bramwell Head 35 (1846) Born Bury, Lancashire Blacksmith
Eliza Wife 31 (1850) Born Manchester, Lancashire nee Clegg Sep 1866 Chaplen le Frith or Millington Mar 1867 Bakewell
Alfred Son 14 (1867) Born Buxton, Derbyshire Scholar
John T Son 12 (1869) Born Buxton, Derbyshire Scholar
Frank Son 9 (1872) Born Buxton, Derbyshire Scholar
Nathan Son 7 (1874) Born Bury, Lancashire Scholar
Margaret A D Daug 4 (1877) Born Wigan, Lancashire
12 Oak Leigh, West Derby, Lancashire


1891 Census



1901 Census
Thomas Bramwell Head 55 (1846) Born Bury, Lancashire Blacksmith Widower
Frank Son 30 (1871) Born Buxton, Derbyshire Jewellery Packer
Nathan Son 27 (1874) Born Bury, Lancashire Engineer labourer
Eliza Daug 18 (1883) Born Liverpool, Lancashire Domestic Coachmen
Robert Son 17 (1884) Born Liverpool, Lancashire Blacksmith Apprentice
46 Cable Street, Manchester, Lancashire


1911 Census
Robert Bramwell Head 28 (1884) Born Liverpool, Lancashire Whitesmith
Susannah Wife 27 (1884) Born Bridgetown, Staffordshire Nee Jolly married Mar 1908 Liverpool
Irene Elizabeth Daug 3 (1908) Born Manchester, Lancashire
Robert Gerald Son 7m (1911) Born Manchester, Lancashire
4 Dorothy Street, Cheetham, Manchester, Lancashire

there are a few gaps I can't seem to close up.

Any help would be much appreciated
Gerald

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:01 pm
by mallosa
Hi Gerald!

1891: 28 Crossley Street, Warrington, Lancs
John Gresty 57 Head Stone Mason Stretton, Cheshire
Ann Gresty 50 Wife Warrington, Lancs

Sarah Gresty 17 Dau Frustian? Cutter America

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:24 pm
by mallosa
warmbells wrote:
1881 Census
John Gresty Head 47 (1834) Born Stretton, Cheshire Stone Mason
Ann Wife 44 (1837) Born Warrington, Lancashire
David Son 21 (1860) Born Bolton, Lancashire Plasterer
Mary J Daug 17 (1864) Born Warrington, Lancashire Fustain Cutter
Thomas Son 16 (1865) Born Liverpool, Lancashire General Labourer
John Son 14 (1867) Born Widnes, Lancashire General Labourer
Joseph Son 12 (1869) Born ??, America Scholar
Lizzie Daug 11 (1870) Born ??, America Scholar
Sarah Daug 9 (1872) Born ??, America Scholar
George Son 8 (1873) Born ??, America Scholar

Elizabeth Daug 1 (1880) Born Warrington, Lancashire
255 Winwick Road, Warrington, Lancashire



Looks like they were living in America before 1870 and returned after 1873?

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:17 pm
by warmbells
Thanks for the replies, being very low on funds we have little choice of where to look and a lot of the places don't seem to have a great deal of information.

Gerald

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:57 pm
by Maths girl
1891 18 Friday St , Manchester
Thomas Bramwell 43 Oil Yard Foreman
Frank Bramwell 18 Labourer in oil yard
Nathan Bramwell 15 Drafters assistant
Margaret A Bramwell 13
Robert Bramwell 8
Eliza Bramwell 8

All Born Manchester except Frank - Derby, Derbyshire

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:00 pm
by grangers14
1870 Census.
Springfield Ward 8, Hampden, Massachusetts
Ann Grasty 37, Keeps House
David, 10,
Mary, 6,
Thomas, 4,
John, 3, Massachusetts,
All others born England
Joseph, 1

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:09 pm
by Maths girl
Maths girl wrote:1891 18 Friday St , Manchester
Thomas Bramwell 43 Oil Yard Foreman
Frank Bramwell 18 Labourer in oil yard
Nathan Bramwell 15 Drafters assistant
Margaret A Bramwell 13
Robert Bramwell 8
Eliza Bramwell 8

All Born Manchester except Frank - Derby, Derbyshire


and 1871 Park Cottage Fairfield
Thomas Bramwall 25 Blacksmith,Bury
Eliza Bramwall 24 Manchester
Alfred Bramwall 3 Fairfield
John Thos Bramwall 1 Fairfield

Mary Ann Edge 64 Lodger Dressmaker Bolton
Elizabeth Edge 57 Sister Dressmaker Bolton
Sarah Edge 48 Sister Dressmaker Bolton

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:39 pm
by peterd
1881, 12 Oak Leigh West Derby, Lancashire


Thomas BRAMWELL 32 Bury, Lancashire, Blacksmith (General)
Eliza BRAMWELL 31 Manchester, Lancashire,
Alfred BRAMWELL 14 Buxton, Derby, Scholar
John T. BRAMWELL 12 Buxton, Derby, Scholar
Frank BRAMWELL 9 Buxton, Derby, Scholar
Nathan BRAMWELL 7 Bury, Lancashire, Scholar
Margaret A. BRAMWELL 4 Wigan, Lancashire,

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:52 pm
by grangers14
Possible
1851 Census
? Appleton, Cheshire
Thomas Gresty, head, 54, journeyman stone mason, Acton
Mary, wife, 44, Great Budworth(?)
Thomas, son, 24, Ag Lab,
John, son, 17, Stone mason
Ann, daur, 1
Mary Plum, visitor, 4

1841 Census
Hatton Houses, Appleton, Budworth
Thomas, 45, Stone Mason
Mary, 30,
Harriot, 12,
John, 8,
Joseph, 6,
Peter, 1
All others born Appleton(?)

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:04 pm
by peterd
grangers14 wrote:Possible
1851 Census
? Appleton, Cheshire
Thomas Gresty, head, 54, journeyman stone mason, Acton
Mary, wife, 44, Great Budworth(?)
Thomas, son, 24, Ag Lab,
John, son, 17, Stone mason
Ann, daur, 1
Mary Plum, visitor, 4

1841 Census
Hatton Houses, Appleton, Budworth
Thomas, 45, Stone Mason
Mary, 30,
Harriot, 12,
John, 8,
Joseph, 6,
Peter, 1
All others born Appleton(?)



appleton and great budworth just outside warrington

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:08 pm
by peterd
poss this one derbyshire

Marriages Sep 1866

BRAMWELL Thomas Chapel le F. 7b 874
CLEGG Eliza Chapel le F. 7b 874

HEDDERLEY Henry Chapel le F. 7b 874
WATTS Elizabeth Chapel le F. 7b 874

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:15 pm
by warmbells
Thanks all,

You lot are b****y marvelous, I've obviously not been looking in the right places, most of the places I have found that seem to have the information cost and funds are a bit limited here being medically retired.

Gerald

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:20 pm
by peterd
warmbells wrote:Thanks all,

You lot are b****y marvelous, I've obviously not been looking in the right places, most of the places I have found that seem to have the information cost and funds are a bit limited here being medically retired.

Gerald



some of the info will be from them cost place as some members have subscription and dont mind helping out, your welcome warmbells

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:28 pm
by warmbells
Most grateful to you all, this all started out when a cousin of my wife asked us to try and find out about the Plants (maiden name), we had a computer and they didn't. Trouble is it all seems to get addictive trying to see how far you can go back and what you can find out, no skeletons yet, thank goodness.

If I come up with a win on the lottery, I'll get a few subscriptions and try and help out others.

Gerald

Re: Help with Bramwell and Gresty please.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:54 pm
by mallosa
peterd wrote:
some of the info will be from them cost place as some members have subscription and dont mind helping out, your welcome warmbells


Peterd's right Warmbells, we might as well get our money's worth out of it, eh? :grin: